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Hi everyone out there in back problem world! I am a service member who joined in 1975 and did 27 years of faithful service. I first injured my back in 1987 while loading a covered truck. The canopy is low so you have to bend over while moving things forward. Long story short, I injured my self. Went to chiopractor for adjustment. Reinjured exact place again in around 1989. begain search for problem. At that time they said there was no significant problem. Again in around 1992. After that I don't remember any major injury but kept going back to fix it because it caused so many problems with pain down my right side. Went to a refferred specialist around 2000 and he said I had a little tiny buldge with some deginerative disk disease. Prescribed celbrix in some high doses and the next thing I new is I had two holes burned in my stomach and have had problems with that ever since. More mri's/x-rays. More doctors. Retired in 2002. Have gone to the va several times since retirement. At one time they prescribed me opiates to do away with the pain. Then they sent me to a pain clinic but first I had to attend a weight loss class. I am 69 inchs tall and weight 207. The pain clinic did a brief 20 minute interview and said they would get back to me. They called and took me off the opiates. Then I was in so much pain I made an appointment. The prescribed methadone. Said this won't become addictive. The last time was in march of this year and got an xray then. Went back to the doctor in May (that is how long it takes to get appointments) and he said there was nothing extroidnary that he could see. I told him the pain comes and goes now but when it comes it last up to three weeks at a whack. He said he wanted to give me a epidermal and then see if it would isolate the problem so he could see if he could fix it. The nearest appointment from pay for the procedure was to be at the end the 1st of JUly. I asked them if it would make it so I would not feel pain and if so would I beable to tell if I cut myself. They told me I had to be careful!?! I told the nurse that was setting it up that it comes and goes so what would you find out if I don't have the pain. She said that if I could, make it hurt about that time! What the hell! I thought about this on the way home and called back to cancel the appointment. It sounded to weird for me. So sure as heck, on Friday the 7th I did who knows what and now my back hurts like hell. 24/7 for 8 days now. I have learned quite a bit along the way about this issue. I am certain it has to do with the sciatic nerve system. I think maybe around the L5 to S4 area. I have persued the civilian sector for doctors yesterday and today I am going to a walk in emergency room the clinic has.

So here it is. I want off the methadone. I don't think it helps at all. And doesn't anyone out there know if there is a solution to chronic sciatic nerve problems? I will let everyone know what the new clinic does for me, if anything:) Pray and hope for the best please.
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replied July 16th, 2012
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After that I don't remember any major injury but kept going back to fix it because it caused so many problems with pain down my right side.

An injury is something where your body heals itself on its own with nothing more than some painkillers on your part until you heal.
A condition can come from an injury, stress, or bad posture. Your body gets "stuck" with something out of alignment or something stops moving (L5 - S4 in your case) and your body can't heal itself ON IT'S OWN. That's what you have.
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I told the nurse that was setting it up that it comes and goes so what would you find out if I don't have the pain. She said that if I could, make it hurt about that time!

Pain is just a symptom. You don't have to have pain for your alignment problems / muscle imbalances to show. They are there all the time - pain or not.

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And doesn't anyone out there know if there is a solution to chronic sciatic nerve problems?

Yes, but you will need to change the way you are looking at this problem. Pills, injections, and surgery can give you relief from the pain or clean up the damage done. None of these will HEAL your body.

If healing is what you are looking for, you have to get your hips and back into alignment and moving again * AT L5/S4 *. You have to decide whether you want someone to work on you with techniques like:
1) Muscle balancing massage such as "Structural Energetics".
2) Neurofascial release.
3) Myofascial or cranial sacral release.

OR

Do the appropriate exercises yourself (more effective solution) once you have been professionally evaluated for things like:
1) Lack or curve in your your lower back.
2) One hip higher than the other.
3) Twist in your hips or torso.
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replied July 18th, 2012
Some thoughts for MasterGunner
MasterGunner - I have chronic back pain, dengenerative disc disease, have had dozens of acute episodes where I couldn't walk and missed work (all lower back, but upper is starting) and gave up all kinds of activities along the way. I have done a ton of research. I'm not a medical pro, but I decided after 15 years to take control of my own course. I hope I can help.

First of all, you will be able to fix this and get off pain killers. Ideally you can do that without surgery. It will take some more research, and some good people who can diagnose and treat you, and probably some hard work on your part to exercise and strengthen. Don't try to figure that out yourself....you can do more harm doing the wrong thing.

Generally, if you have a problem that they can clearly pinpoint and attribute symptoms too, and those symptoms are severe, you could be a candidate for surgery. For example, if they can see and tell for sure that a ruptured disc is pinching a nerve and you have all the symptoms associated with that in the right places, that's what they look for.

The fact that it comes and goes means that you could just be irritating it, and perhaps physical therapy (which can include manipulating and strengthening) can help. I'd recommend that over the quick fix of the chiro. Also, people walk around all the time with bulging/ruptured discs and no symptoms. Consider yourself lucky when it "goes".

With the injections, they were trying to isolate the problem. If you have pain and they treat an area, and it helps, that's good. If you have no pain at the time, it's hard to conclude anything. It's not fishy, just a diagnostic process.

You may have done these things, but here's what I'd do. Insist that your primary refer you for an MRI and a neurosurgeon consult. Also, you can definitely benefit from PT. You might want to do that in parallel, but the right place will be very cautious and gradual, and can give relief, expecially with the right strengthening exercises. If it's extreme and surgery is needed the nuero will figure that out.

If they can't conclude anything, get a second opinion. Your current situation sucks, but is a good chance to get into that diagnostic process....go for it.

I hope you have a situation where you can fit in the appointment and deal with all this.

In my case, nuro said I was not a surgery candidate. I understand why, even though I wish there was a quick fix. It was a combo of not having dramatic symptoms (had sciatica, and tons of pain, but basically not peeing in my pants) and having degenerative discs up and down, so long term, I'd just be chasing the problem and fusion etc might cause a chain of problems.

I ended up with a physiatrist, who looked at the MRI found arthritis and extreme inflamation in the facet joints, and I started with relatively safe steroid injections in those joints today. Painful, but you're a vet...I'm sure you can handle it! 15 years ago I went through similar process and had epidural injection of steroid. Look it up you'll see the difference. The latter was to calm the disc down which was irritating the nerve and causing horrible sciatica. The first worked great. Hoping for the same this week.

If that works my plan is to get back to at least walking 15 miles/week and doing the core exercises from PT. IF I can play soccer with my kids I'll be happy...if I can backpack and camp, I'll be ecstatic. We'll see on step at a time.

Good luck! I'll check back. It was nice to find a recent post where maybe this can help. I was just looking for something related to what I had done today.
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