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Q: living with a torn miniscus
asked by: je on August 29th, 2008
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I'm a 51 and just tore my left miniscus for the 2nd time 9 days ago.
I was bending into my van trying to hang up some garments when the knee gave out, twisting and hyperextending it. There was a painful sudden inaudible pop and I fell into the van yelling in pain. Although the initial pain was briefly quite severe, I was able to immediately walk it off and put a tight foam knee sleeve on it, take a couple of ibuprofins and head to the State Fair. It felt sore but not too bad for a few days, but now it seems to be somewhat worse, a bit tight, feels weak, and it aches some at night. There is still a full range of mobility and there's not much swelling or visible bruising. It hurts plenty locally when I tap it from the front to the outside, low on the knee. There is also some minor pain on the opposite side, the inside-rear, low on the knee.


The first injury was degenerative in nature and surgically trimmed about 5 years ago.
It started with a very serious and untreated lumbar injury @ age 12. We had 8 kids in the family, we were uninsured and there wasn't money for doctors, xrays and PT. My folks blew it off, and still won't go there.
The degeneration was caused by a duckfoot gait, esp. on the left, which came from chronic nerve disruption due to the resulting persistent hip rotation, a vertabral spur, slight lower body atrophy caused by insufficient physical rehab and the lack of chiropractic care for 4 decades.
The wear was further aggravated by a very large and recurring plantar's wart on the left big toe that forced me to learn to unconsciously walk on the outside of my left foot for 10-15 years.

A sidenote: In retrospect it is obvious that the lack of immediate care was the cause of my 14,000 day backache. At the time I was fairly industrious and made money shovelling sidewalks, delivering papers and mowing lawns. Certainly, I could've spent that money to see a doctor rather than for candy, bicycles and school stuff. The nerve impingement has led to fatigue, balance issues, leg pain to the ankles, thigh numness, parastesia (RLS) and occasional sexual incapacity.


The first surgery was paid largely by insurance that I briefly had with my employer @ HP. The insurance was eliminated to bolster stock prices shortly thereafter. Since then the jobs were sent to India and 140 of us were toasted overnight. Invent. Rolling Eyes

Here's the crux of my situation. How does one deal with a torn miniscus permantly? Regardless of the severity of this latest injury, I have to live with it for the rest of my life. I'm not looking for a way to prop up and wait for a surgery because I'm not insured and not flush enough for another $20,000 surgery and rehab. My health has been insured thrice, for a total of about 4 of my 52 years. Certainly with 100 million uninsured or under-insured Americans today, there are others out there in my boat.

Thanks, Jay
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illustriously fickle
replied on September 2nd, 2008
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Hi Jay. I've also had recurring injuries in my knees and had 3 surgeries on my right meniscus to remove cartilage that was scraping against the bone. I'm 33 and have arthritis pretty badly in that knee (2 ACL reconstructions overall in both knees) ...

Let me ask you this: Are you still in pain? Does the knee click?
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je
replied on September 20th, 2008
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I finally found my password to this site. The knee has improved in the past 3 weeks to where I'm not so worried about permanent injury. There is better strength and very little pain. Still concerned about the vulnerability and it isn't perfect, but I'm walking a lot and being careful not to hyperextend or twist. Thanks to the Big Guy for the lucky break. Also thanks to IF for the post and I hope your arthritis isn't too bad this fall, when I'd expect cooler, damp weather to agravate the situation.

Jay
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illustriously fickle
replied on September 22nd, 2008
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Hi Jay, I'm glad to hear that you've recovered somewhat. I'd suggest that you seek help from a PT or weight trainer or yoga or Pilates teacher (depending upon your affinities) and build up the supporting muscles to the knee joint. An ounce of prevention is worth so much these days!

Arthritis is getting better as I exercise more and eat better. Thanks for the encouragement...take care!
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Seraph
replied on September 22nd, 2008
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Hi Jay,

I must say...there is good reason why the mafia allways target the knee caps Very Happy

I have had more than several dislocations...and you are so right in the description...Excruciating!

You need to get that knee checked out...just to be safe. You don't have to have an operation, but making sure all is in order, is better than having a more serious event later on... Scar tissue can form on your miniscus, making it easier to dislocate your knee next time around. It can also lead to your knee locking and causing more injury to the miniscus.

I once spent 2 months in a closed reduction cast after having locked my knee because I didn't see a doctor after dislocating it ;D

Glad to hear it is feeling better tho Smile
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cardioqueen01
replied on April 2nd, 2009
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Hi jay, i too have no insurance. i'm on my way to see an orthopedic surgeon on monday due to a torn miniscus that happened a year ago and i just let it go and now i've reinjured it. if you don't have insurance tell them that up front that it is private pay and you would like a flat rate. i did this several years ago when i needed a hysterectomy and they will offer cheaper fees. i got a flat rate fee of $5000 from the hospital and $1000 from the doctor. as it turns out they made a mistake on me and i ended up spending five days in the hospital but it was still only $5000. it never hurts to ask and the reason i know this is my daughter was in insurance at the time at a hospital and she told me about the flat rate. i just got my mri on my knee for $500 broken down in three payments. if i had insurance it would have been $2800. so don't be afraid to ask. that's what i plan to do on monday when i go to the dr.
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Crustyoldguy
replied on September 26th, 2009
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The original post was quite a while ago, but for others who are reading this thread, I tore my meniscus fairly severely about 30 years ago. I was given pain killers and told just to let it heal by itself. (I am now 52 years old. For the past year, I've been starting to feel tenderness and some pain again. I've put my knee on "yellow alert" - always aware about how I move and twist. The best defense for me is to build up the muscles around the knee. The best thing for me is a recumbant excercycle. However, I'll pretty much have to stick with the program rest of my life. (It's a good cardio workout anyway.)
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