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June 4th, 2010
Have had Lipomas since 16. Have not found a silver bullet but a No fat/No Red Meat/Alkaline Diet has stopped the growth of the Lipomas. Have to be very strict with the diet and drink a lot of water which will slow down or stop new growths. I have even seen some of them shrink with this lifestyle.
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replied June 4th, 2010
Diet
to KFBG: I'm open to anything and plan on trying ayurveda soon. What is in your no fat/no red meat/alkaline diet? I already do not eat red meat and have a very, very healthy diet, but I'm not sure what a no fat/alkaline diet consists of.
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replied June 7th, 2010
Alkaline diet consists on eating foods that make the PH of your body alkaline. You can search online for these foods (search for alkaline diet). Also eliminating animal saturated fats (including dairy products keep eating fish though since is good source of long chain amino acids) also keep eating good saturated fats (coconut oil, olive oil, flax seed oil, eat all of them).
You can also add to this by drinking alkaline water (get bottled of buy a machine).
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replied June 8th, 2010
Please everyone limit your zinc and alcohol
Please everyone stop taking multi-vitamins with zinc and limit your alcohol. Lipoma growth is stimulated by diet. I'm a genetic researcher and I've done some work with the promoter (regulatory region controlling expression) of the HMG2a gene which gets rearranged in lipomas. This is a hereditary condition (in most cases) but the expression levels of the gene can be controlled by diet.

Also please don't get them liposuctioned or they will most likely grow back since this procedure leaves lots of cells behind. Each one of these cells could regrow a new lipoma since it is a tumour...although benign. Surgical removal of the encapsulated lipoma is the best option. Sorry, a low fat diet won't shrink them because lipomas are encapsulated and therefore not bio-available.

Hope this info helps.
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replied October 12th, 2011
I have Lynch Syndrome HNPCC with a default in MSH2 and have several lipoma sites on my body. Is there a connection.
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replied June 9th, 2010
Thanks for all the posts...i have been diagnosed with lipomas this week. I have had this lump on my legs for many, many years and wasn't sure what it was. It is now larger and I hate the way it looks on my leg. I will be having surgury soon and was wondering about the recovery time. Has anyone had any removed from there legs???
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replied June 15th, 2010
ATX-101
This ATX-101 or Sodium deoxycholate treatment is simply a liquid solution which can dissolve or lyse any type of cells. When you inject it into the lipoma it will destroy some of the local fat cells by lysing them open but the skin site reaction is often bad and you will get a lot of pain and burning. The lipoma will shrink somewhat after several rounds of injections but you won't totally get rid of it. This may be what people will want to endure if they really really don't want a scar. However, jamming a needle into the lipoma may dislodge lipomic-type cells into other areas of the body and lead to more lipomas.

There are no miracle pills. Altering your diet (limiting zinc and alcohol) will stop the existing ones from growing any bigger and it will stop you from getting new ones. It won't shrink them because they are not metabolically available as fats due to their encapsulation.

The only way to remove them is to get them cut out buy a skilled surgeon who is careful not to rupture the encapsulated lipoma and who hopefully will use the squeeze technique to leave minimal scarring.
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replied June 15th, 2010
I have a lipoma on my neck and would like to get rid of it. I did some research and found that a lecitin emulsion injected into the lipoma causes it to disappear. Up to four injections with at least 2 weeks in between may be needed. The procedure was developed by a plastic surgeon in Sao paulo (Dr. Patricia Rittes), and she has treated over 2000 cases with no side effects or complications. Unfortunately the treatment is not available in the UK where I live. Going to Sao Paulo is fairly expensive from here, especially if several trips are needed. The treatment itself comes to about 300 dollar, presumably per injection. I've got stuck there. Such a simple treatment, it's a shame one has to travel to another continent to get it.

Do anyone know anywhere in Europe this treatment can be had?
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replied June 16th, 2010
I have read several of the studies using lecitin emulsions a.k.a. phosphatidylcholine and none of these completely get rid of the lipomas or have no side-effects. Sorry, henrik9 but what you are saying is not true. You should read the actual research papers at NCBI pubmed. Here is a quote from a typical scientific peer-reviewed research paper describing the use of lecitin emulsions or phosphatidylcholine by Kopera et al., Am J Dermatopathol, 2006: "Only a partial reduction of the lipoma could be achieved, and increased echographic density of the lipoma could be observed after the third intralesional application of phosphatidylcholine (lecithin emulsion). Surgical excision of the lipoma was performed and histologic examination showed focal fibrosis, inflammatory site reaction with granulomatous features. Yes, the lipoma shrunk a little bit but the patient had a huge site-reaction with inflammation and a granuloma-type swelling. Like I said, there are no miracle cures.
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replied June 16th, 2010
yes we've seen a lot of wonderful peer-reviewed papers here lately by socalled climate "scientists".

It is regrettable for dr kopera's patient that the outcome was unsatisfactory, but as pointed out, in the case of a poor result one can then move on to surgery.
The first paper above lists procedural errors that will lead to the kind of result obtained by dr. Kopera, mostly injecting too much in too many places.

I said no side effects, that is inaccurate. All medical treatments have side effects. I meant no risk of serious complications or permanent side effects. Localised, temporary imflammation is almost guaranteed to occur, since a fat-dissolving enzyme is injected into a fat accumulation, and the fat-storing cells in that area are certain to be discomfited.

The alternative surgery procedure has two side effects:
1. Full anaesthetic means some kind of brain damage, hopefully reversible and small. There is also a tiny risk of mortality which hospitals never talk about.
2. A permanent scar results from the procedure. Aesthetically nothing has therefore been achieved, since an unsightly swelling is exchanged for an equally interesting scar.
These problems are compounded by the fact that the operation is usually done by inexperienced amateurs. IN UK hospitals lipoma extraction is regarded as perfect training for notoriously underslept and overworked trainee/locum doctors. The treatment is however well established. It was invented around 1807, as part of a drive to improve field surgeon practices in Napoleon's army, and has remained little changed to this day. Napoleon thought it was good practice, but that's not surprising; back then it was new and state of the art.
Which brings me back to my question: Where can I get professional Lipostabil treatment in Europe?
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replied June 21st, 2010
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WOW! I'm new to this site and in a way glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this demon inside of me. I've had Lipoma since 30. I'm 59 now. I had one surgery and found that there's no end to it, after talking to others. I just tried NAPLOFAX, from Healing Plants, Ltd. The website says spam unapproved, but it came from Pakistan. IT DID NOT WORK! DON'T BUY IT! Through the years, all the Dermotologist say it's heredity....maybe so, but I'm getting to believe it has something to do with blood circulation problems. I'm not a doctor, but it kinda makes sense. Maybe collectively, we all need to focus in on similiar symptoms and narrow down the possibilities. The doctors aren't helping us...
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replied June 24th, 2010
The Story So Far: What are Lipomas, and how can I prevent them?
I am getting two lipomas removed surgically, but since I don't want a recurrence ( one is directly over my heart), I started doing some research into these things.

My armchair summary of what I've learned is this:
1. Lipomas are fat cells that have an increased ability to replicate (also called 'enhanced adipogenesis'), but don't have a corresponding increased chance of dying off in a healthy way and being re-absorbed into the body (they don't have 'enhanced apoptosis'). No definitive research indicates what the initial catalyst is for these to begin forming.
2. Once they form, however, they aren't consumed by the body the way normal fat cells would be, so exercise and diet may slow growth, but don't ever seem to eliminate them.

One prevailing theory about root cause for Lipomas, and the difficulties with developing Non-Surgical and Preventative treatments:
1. The initial formation site is often (but not always) related to an injury or inflammation at the location, which then triggers the body's immune system (macrophages, etc) to migrate to the site. The body will provide localized fuel for the macrophages, which is normally temporary, and metabolized by components of the immune system.
4. Sometimes, however, if the fat cells have this "lipoma mutation", not only do the lipomas form, but the cell walls of these cells prevent the body from metabolizing them normally, so other, non-lipoma fuel sources are used instead. So, while poor diet and obesity can make lipomas larger and cause the cells to replicate more (like any fat cells), but the opposite doesn't appear to be true. This is why diet and exercise don't reduce and eliminate the lipomas. This is an important point, because mixed messages are often given by healthcare professionals. "Lipomas aren't caused by being overweight" is essentially true, and yet, one physician I asked about prevention told me, "Lose weight". Due to the mechanisms behind the growth of lipomas, this may be partially true, but as an answer to "prevention", it was a seriously misleading answer.

For those people with an onset of lipomas that are very painful and number in the *hundreds*, a confirmation (or elimination) of a diagnosis of Dercum's Disease (http://www.genome.gov/17516629) may be warranted.

Ultimately, a non-surgical cure for benign lipomas will probably require a multi-phased protocol; something like the following:
1. Initial treatment with very specific tagging mechanism to identify the enhanced adipogenesis-mutations of the lipoma cells, that also acts as a binding mechanism for the next phase.
2. Tagging is follow followed by a secondary treatment that binds to the site, enabling normal metabolic processes to break down and digest the tumor over time.

I'm just a computer guy, so I would take all of these speculations with a very large grain of salt, and I welcome any and all corrections, clarifications, and comments from actual professionals.
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replied June 25th, 2010
I am from India, i too have lipomas since last 10-15 yrs.
I am a vegetarian , non alcoholic and do not smoke ,lake less of dairy products.I have found no cure as of now.
Tried homeopathic and Ayurvedic medicine.Non in my Family history had this demon.
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replied June 25th, 2010
After reading everyone's story, research and opinions, I find it difficult to believe anything said, as to what may or may not prevent further beign lipomas, or preventing them from occuring in the first place. Lipoma_Man and henrik9...great research and information on the subject matter. I don't believe any of the following; drinking alcohol, avoiding zinc, due to heredity, avoiding dairy products/meats and maintaining a daily exercise program will prevent lipomas from developing. This is what I do believe....the lipomas are the "results" of another reaction in the body that is "causing" them to develop. Is it a gene? Is it a internal chemical reaction the body is facing with the type of blood we (those in this forum), which can't fight of the inbalance. I understand that current cancer research is not being directed towards the tumor, but to the source feeding the tumor. Take a gues what the source is?....BLOOD! There is a pill that has been developed that cuts off he blood source feeding the tumor, thus killing it internally. Cut-off the source feeding the lipomas and you will kill the fat cells. What is the source that feeds lipomas and we'll have a cure.
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replied June 27th, 2010
Diet has helped me...
I have many lipomas, mine are mostly on my arms, but I have some on my legs and torso. My mother has them and I'm like a mirror image of her so I believe that they are definitely hereditary. At 32, my life changed and my rigorous exercise reduced significantly. I started gaining a little weight and my first lipoma appeared. It was small and there was no pain. As the years went by, I gained more weight, more lipomas appeared and grew and they were painful. Three years ago, at age 45, I started changing my diet, replacing saturated fats with healthy oils and reducing my junk food intake, causing me to lose 30 lbs. My lipomas started reducing a little in size and became less painful, with no new formations. Recently, I eliminated all but natural forms of fructose (from fruit only). The lipomas are softer and smaller still and barely hurt, even when touched. Since high fructose corn syrup overworks the liver and causes it to release toxins into the body, I'm assuming that this might be a major contributing factor for me. I do know that a client of my husband, who drank Cola all day long, had several lipomas and his doctor told him to cut out all pop. His reduced significantly. I'm not sure if it was the reduction in caffeine, fructose, or a combination of both. I hope that our experiences with dietary change can help some of you.
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replied June 30th, 2010
I am 37 years old, and have many of the lumps all over my body downwards below the neck. i remember having lots of Rasna(sweet soft drink) concentrate ( the theory of high fructose corn syrup may be true )when i was 9+ years old and gradually over the years these lumps started appearing all over my body. so far there has been no pain in any of the lumps and i have not opted for operations till now.... hope the same remains...hope for a cure soon
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replied July 2nd, 2010
To LVS2GOLF:
You said "Take a guess what the source is?....BLOOD! There is a pill that has been developed that cuts off the blood source feeding the tumor, thus killing it internally. Cut-off the source feeding the lipomas and you will kill the fat cells. What is the source that feeds lipomas and we'll have a cure."

The source of nutrition for the tumor is is blood vessels. The development of new blood vessels to continue to feed tumors as they grow larger is called angiogenesis. The type of solution you're describing is called 'anti-angiogenesis'. There are a number of treatments focussing on this area, primarily in the area of cancer tumors, and include things like very low copper diets and other things. The problem is that there is nothing that distinguishes these blood vessels from any other in the body; the blood vessels themselves are normal. Therefore, anti-angiogenesis treatments have some very unpleasant possible side effects.
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replied July 3rd, 2010
Thanks Avatek_Research for the response.
I idea of consuming high fructose corn syrup makes sense because I drank loads of this stuff when I was a kid. My first lipoma was in my teens. Can someone explain how this will affect the livers process and releases toxins into the body....maybe this is a lead?
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replied July 8th, 2010
Lipoma
I am interested if treating lipoma by cavitation( ultrasound liposuction) has given any results?
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replied July 12th, 2010
:( Solution?
I have removed 30 lipomas and have another 40 new ones develop over 5 years. I have been told I have the hereditry version of it, e.g. multiple lipomatosis familia. I have already tried surgery but am very unhappy with the scars left over. I am worried that if I choose to surgically remove the remaining 40 that I will have more scars and the risk of new lipomas developing. Very depressing situation and unfortunately, not enough research has gone into this area and hence why there are limited solutions.

As a collective, what do we need to do to find a solution?
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replied July 13th, 2010
Check out a dr toni bank usa has a lipodissolve clinic uses specific injection of natural ensymes trying to find one in uk for my neck lipoma on nhs but doubtful
regards Greenman
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