Wendyrs is right. My son lived with his girlfriend for over 10 years and kept stalling on getting married. I had told her from the beginning not to move in with him, that men take longer to propose when they already have all the benefits of a wife, without the actual committment. Through the years she expressed her desire to marry and have kids, to no avail. Finally after waiting 10 years, she took my advice and gave him the untimatum. Marry me or I am gone. (She wanted kids, he said he didn't, because they were leading a very lavish lifestyle.) Because she had threatened before but never acted, he thought she was bluffing and called her on it, so she LEFT. He at first tried to act like he didn't care, but 6 months later they were married, and now have a beautiful baby boy. Too bad it took 11 years! If she had left the first time, we'd probably have a few more grandkids by now. Seeing as they are almost in their 40's, I think they are sticking with just one!