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Posted: 03-10-08 21:57pm

In Maryland, pro-choicers have pushed for a bill that would require so-called %u201CCrisis Pregnancy Centers%u201D to inform women that they are not health care providers and that they are under no legal obligation to tell the truth. In practice, these centers routinely lie to women in order to coerce them out of terminating their pregnancies. They pose as health care providers when they aren%u2019t, offering ultrasounds but not having qualified doctors on site to actually read them. They flat-out lie about abortion and contraception.

So it would be nice if they were required to tell the truth, but of course that won%u2019t happen. The last part of the article, though, is pretty great:

Delegate Joseph Bartlett, a Frederick County Republican, said the centers should be able to continue to operate normally.

%u201CThe premise that we%u2019re going to require these organizations to disclaim that they don%u2019t have to tell the truth is just about the silliest thing I ever heard,%u201D he said. %u201CWe certainly don%u2019t do that in the case of politicians, do we?%u201D

Well, no, we don%u2019t, but perhaps we should.
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Posted: 03-10-08 22:17pm

Yeah, we should. And what; is she claiming that these crisis pregnancy centers are politicians?

Imagine that...

Crisis Pregnancy Center:
"We're not doctors, but we feel you should listen to us..."

Planned Parenthood Clinic:
"We ARE doctors. How do YOU feel? We will listen to you."
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Posted: 03-10-08 22:51pm

I've seen ads for the Crisis Pregnancy Centers, and I must say, anyone who's considering an abortion wouldn't dare go to one of them. They're so anti-abortion it's not even funny. However, I understand that in a "crisis", a lot of girls wouldn't use the common sense I'd apply to such a situation, so I agree that these centers should be forced to say that they AREN'T doctors and they do give biased advice and their advice or any medical statements (regarding ultrasounds and whatnot) may be WRONG. Good post Jincks Smile
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Posted: 03-11-08 00:19am

Isn't it interesting the anti-choice crowd wants 'informed consent' for abortion but doesn't feel the same need for themselves. Hypocrits.
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Posted: 04-17-08 22:22pm

Tylanas wrote:
Yeah, we should. And what; is she claiming that these crisis pregnancy centers are politicians?

Imagine that...

Crisis Pregnancy Center:
"We're not doctors, but we feel you should listen to us..."

Planned Parenthood Clinic:
"We ARE doctors. How do YOU feel? We will listen to you."


Planned Parenthood: "I will kill your baby for you if you feel you can't bear the pain..."

Crisis pregnancy center: "Let's help you find a way around killing your child."
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Posted: 04-17-08 22:24pm

Why though? It's not just about being unable to bear the pain. There are dozens of reasons women abort.
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Posted: 04-18-08 01:47am

An embryo is not a child.
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Tylanas

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Posted: 04-18-08 08:52am

"Child" can mean offspring so yes, an embryo technically IS a "child". Is it a child according to the educational development tables? No. But the basic definition of child is offspring, and an embryo fulfills that definition.
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