How old are you, Cambion?

I would probably be very uncomfortable if I knew someone in a close incestual relationship, however on the surface I honestly must say that as long as no child is going to be produced, both people are of legal age and all of that, then there's no legal reason against it.

I mention "no child will be produced" because genetic defects are far more common with close incestual relations, and I think it's a form of child abuse to purposely bring a child into the world knowing it will have a damaged genome.

Cambion, are you in love with your cousin?

Incest happens all the time and people dont judge them.

Royalty marries within the family (family of purest genes they believe) anyway on another note, some cultures firmly believe as well alot of aristocratic families to name a few, Portuguese, Spanish etc etc and even others.

Now I know of people marrying their cousin, the percentage of their kids being born with defect may be higher up but I dont quite believe it all either, I think scare tactics can be beautiful I reall dont feel for brother or sisters though thats is just rough but then again you never know.

Brother/sister and parent/child relations are the ones that are primarily responsible for causing genetic defects. The royal family of England has the highest cases of hemophelia I know of, there are stories about it, it's so well known.

No, this is not based on anything from my life - I had recently read some bizarre account of an incestual relationship between a brother and a sister and I wanted to bring the general issue up for debate (and also since I know it is a bit of a taboo subject).

But it is true that the mixing of similar DNA can cause issues - this is why people who are fourth or fifth generation inbreds are majorly messed up. It may not happen in that first generation, but upon giving it some time, those defects become more and more noticeable. And this is true for more than the human race - if you look at dogs, for example. Some dog breeders will often inbreed the dogs, resulting in sick or deformed pups that they will try to sell under the guise of perfect health. It's not a guarantee, but why take the chance? I know a lot of people are selfish and don't care if they birth a retarded paralyzed kid, just so long as they can have a precious baby, and this is regardless of the inbreeding factor.

Personally, I also don't care if someone wants to date their relative. But I would probably rip them a new one if they decided to try and have children just because of that risk of defects. Having kids is enough of a crapshoot without the added danger of deformities due to inbreeding, and it really is not fair to put a potential child at risk just because two people felt the need to try and spawn.

i think it depends on where you live to determine if its right or wrong.
In some towns it is common for daughters to marry fathers at a young age, and its the norm for them in that society.
There was an article in the news the other day about a father and daughter i think in Texas, that got married and in their society, its normal. The police see nothing wrong because they know thats how the town is run, the community sees nothing wrong with it either because thats just how things are done.
In other countries it may be seen as wrong, unnatural etc. but what is wrong for some if right for others, and that may also mean reproducing, because regardless of the circumstances, one of the main reasons for marriage is reproducing. So some would still do that even if they know that defects could and most likely will happen.

I think the reproducing is wrong; it's child abuse. It's paramount to letting your child fall down the stairs.

i think its wrong too, but still, i would not doubt that these people do this indeed.
i think its like child abuse to marry your daughter...but not everyone sees it that way, or takes action to it, because its the norm.

Just because someone does it doesn't make it right.

oh im not saying it is right.
all im saying is that what may be right or wrong for some, is the total opposite for different people with different beliefs.
we all here have pretty much agreed that this is wrong, but for different people they could practice this and its their way of living. so to them, and their society/culture, its right. its cultural ethics. what some cultures see as wrong, others see as right to them and their cultures, but to others and their cultures, societies its wrong.

Even most animals don't interbreed; they instinctively know it's not healthy. They do not become attracted in the animals of their group they are closely related to. Yes, I know there are exceptions to this rule and I'm not talking about them.

Many studies have come out through the years showing that humans are attracted to other humans that are genetically different from them. We can tell unconsciously via scent.

i agree.
but then there's those couple sick minded people who think this is natural and practice this...clearly there is something wrong mentally, but no one has taught them any different, so they dont know any better.
i dont agree to this, i think its wrong on so many levels.

To go after a member of their family knowing full well they will in most likelyhood keep their mouth shut. Coward comes to mind. Weak, weasel, deserving to be kicked to the curb.

Surely, there must be other choices out there than having to hook up with your bro, or father, mother or sister. Cousins too are a very bad choice if for no other reason than down the road your going to be having a batch of half-wits.

Genetically speaking, I agree with the poster saying that we as a species instinctively will choose a mate who will be the best match for producing healthy offspring.

Ever wonder why we have homes for so many children born with Down's Syndrome? The parents dumped them off and goodbye. Not saying they were born as a result of incest. Parents for the most part want perfect and are sometimes ill equiped to handle a child with major problems.

Cambrian, you are provocative in your postings and Beline is correct in asking your age. It is early 20's, right? If this subject has come into your rhelm of thinking, it must surely be because of someone you know or a person contemplating the move of crossing the taboo of incest.

Funny, just never came up with me and I had two beautiful brothers. Beautiful son, too. No. You can love without going into the sexual part.

Bobbie

Well rape is a different situation; I assumed we were talking about consentual adult relationships.

I agree with you, Roberta. If you want children, then do the genome a favor and don't have a kid with a relative! I'm in my early 20's too.

I recently read a story on here (written a few years ago, though) about incest. A girl's parents gave her up for adoption because they were young (like 13 and 14 I think). She was raised and when she was 18, her mother found her and began a relationship. Then her father stepped in and they became romantically involved and she ended up having two children to him. To them, they were boyfriend and girlfriend, but to their DNA, she was half his. That's a little disturbing to me, but they were in love.

But overall, it's just plain wrong. There are billions of other people out there. Why fish in the backyard pond when there's a huge ocean out there?

You’re too kind, Bobbie. I was thinking more in the region of 14-18. This is the age where some teenagers feel the need to shock people, make statements and challenge authority. Yes, I got my panties in a wad over this. Good job.

When I first started reading your posts, Cambion, I thought that you were a young lady that carried a lot of hurt with you, hiding it behind this cold, hard exterior.
But now you are just annoying me. There’s no need to be nasty to teen mothers, no need to be pro-death rather than pro-choice and no need to make statements with poking at dead bodies and bringing up topics like incest to this forum.

Children have access to ehealth. Please. Post responsibly and maturely.

It might just be because I've been writing a lot of Ninja Turtles yaoi-incest lately

But no one that I know of is in romantic pursuit of a relative. And doG know, I like bringing the most taboo issues possible to the debate table to see what people have to say. I am not trying to shock people, but perhaps it is a matter of me being very hard to shock...the subject of incest is pretty low on my shock scale, honestly.

Beline, I have no idea why you have an issue with me since I have never said boo to you. But I will point out that this is a public forum and people have the power to talk about a broad range of subject matter, some of those subjects being of taboo and questionable nature. I am not going to censor myself because there are some minors on this board - if they don't like what gets posted, then I say tough noogies. They will need to deal with seeing and hearing things they don't like all their lives. And if you are offended by my posts, I suggest kindly you ignore what I have to say from this point on. It sounds to me like you are looking for things to be offended about, though.

If they don't like what's posted no matter who it's by, I hope to lead by example and give them the guts to report the posts. It's not "tough noogies", it's "learn polite conversation".