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I have been diagnosed with IBS several years ago. It seemed like I had a couple of really bad bouts with food poisoning and have never been the same since. But now I have constant cramping and urgent bowel movements, I am naseaus a lot and just generally have a lot of stomach trouble. But to make things much worse, Shortly after I had the IBS problems begin, I started having fainting spells. They would come completley randomly, but almost always when I was having an IBS attack of some sort, either when I was using the toilet and had diahrea or when I was cramping up and needed to use the toilet or something of that nature. I have probably fainted 10 times in the last four years. Some of the times were at home, once in a very dirty public restroom, twice in the car (thankfully as a passenger). I wonder if anyone else has experienced anything like this. I am now constanlty fearful and anxious about my next attack. It consumes my life.
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replied April 10th, 2008
hey i suffer the same problem havent been diagnosed with ibs as yet going 4 a colonoscopy shortly this month.wen i get my attacks i feel very faintish have never passed out yet doe its very strange but i sit on the toliet an start shaking its horrible an preety much after the attack i feel drained. iaskd the doc he thinks its anxiety i think its related 2 the attacks.
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replied April 10th, 2008
Well i know that i suffer from anxiety now, but I have anxiety attacks often when i am going somewhere far from home or something that makes me very nervous, but when i have the anxiety attacks i never actually faint. I really feel like my fainting spells cause the anxiety not that the anxiety causes the fainting spells. They feel very different to me. Some doctors have commented on me having low blood pressure and that the cramping and stomach problems will trigger the vesal vegal nerve that will cause my blood pressure to drop and since it is already low then it drops it to a low enough level that I loose conciousness. I don't know if you have ever heard anything like this.
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replied June 15th, 2009
IBS
hi. I have the same problem and have passed out 5 times during the past 2 years.I want to know from someone if you have wet yourselves when passing out as this happens to me everytime i pass out.
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replied September 1st, 2009
fainting sweating and bowel movements
It is not anxiety. You are describing vasovagal syncope. You feel lightheaded, dizzy, vision can narrow down and you feel as though you are going to faint. Often there is a hot flush that leads to dripping sweating and the urge to have a bowel movement which usually relieves most of these symptoms but leaves you drained and weak. Try Citrucel daily for at least 3 weeks.
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replied July 22nd, 2012
Very helpful. Thank you. Why use the citrucel?
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replied November 6th, 2009
im having the same problem I think, will just be going about my day and then suddenly i have to go to the loo, i have only about a min to get there and once i am there my whole body will start to tremble and i get dizzy, terrible stomach cramps etc...what do i do
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replied March 24th, 2010
Fainting from constipation
Glad to know I'm not alone with this problem.
I've been fainting for 23 years now. As often as twice a week but usually every couple of months. About 40 times in total. First the bloat then the lower ab cramps, profuse sweating, breathing slows, sometimes vomiting too then within one minute of the sweats starting I'll black out *then wham-O* I hit walls, floors & whatever is in my path on the way down.

As a result of these falls/faints; I've had post fall seizures, a 3 day coma, numerous concusions, whiplash, many stitches, lots of bruises... & many, many embarassing moments from being found in pools & puddles of poop, urine &/or blood from injuries.
I now know I have IBS, lactose intollerance & celiac disease and it looks like I can add neurocardiogenic syncope (see below) to that list.
Good luck everyone

Fainting (syncope) is a type of defence mechanism that is employed by the brain. If the supply of blood and oxygen to the brain becomes too low, the brain will immediately take any available blood and oxygen from the rest of the body at the expense of other bodily functions.

Your breathing rate will be increased (hyperventilation) as your brain tries to increase the levels of oxygen. Your heart rate will also increase in order to pump more blood from the rest of your body to your brain.

The increase in heart rate will lead to a loss of blood pressure in the rest of your body (hypotension) as blood is channelled to your brain. The combination of hyperventilation and hypotension can then lead to a temporary loss of consciousness and muscle weakness, resulting in fainting.

Types of fainting describe the underlying reasons why the blood supply to the brain becomes interrupted. The different types of fainting are described below.

Neurocardiogenic syncope

Neurocardiogenic syncope (also known as reflex syncope, or vasovagal syncope) is the most common type of fainting. It occurs when something triggers a temporary malfunction in your autonomous nervous system.

The malfunction causes a drop in your blood pressure, and a reduction in heart beat, leading to a temporary interruption to your brain�s blood supply.

Possible triggers for neurocardiogenic syncope include:

sudden exposure to an unpleasant sight, or experience, such as the sight of blood,
standing for long periods of time,
pending a long time in hot, or stuffy, environments, and
a sudden intense episode of stress, emotional upset, fear, or anxiety.

Occupational syncope

Occupational syncope is a type of neurocardiogenic syncope where the initial trigger is thought to be linked to a bodily function or activity that places sudden strain on your automatic nervous system. Possible triggers for occupational syncope include:

coughing,
sneezing
passing stools,
urinating, and
strenuous physical activities, such as weightlifting.


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replied November 21st, 2012
very helpful. Have you tried belladonna/phenobarb tab also known as donnatol? I had severe problems like this since 16 it wasnt until 28 i took this medicine and wished i had knew about it all along. I also take metamucil and stool softeners, without them i am in the floor and bleeding from whatever i hit on my way down. It really stops the atacks but it did take about 6 monts for it to completely stop them. And to think all those years wasted on living my life around my colon!! What is wrong with doctors these days?
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replied June 4th, 2010
Katrina5558,

Have you seen a specialist for this concern? There are many causes of IBS, and thus each case and its symptoms is unique to the individual. What is important is to first determine the root cause of your symptoms and from there you can create an effective treatment plan. What sorts of tests have you had completed? While the causes are vast, most causes fall into one of two categories: (1) problems with intestinal parasites, bacteria, yeast (2) food allergies and intolerances. I hope that you are able to get to the bottom of this and resolve these unpleasant health concerns!
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replied December 2nd, 2010
My 15 year old daughter suffers from the same thing. It started when she was 13. We both have IBS but I have never experienced a vagal response as she does. She has fainted 4 times in the past 2 years. Same symptoms: bloating, cramping, urgency, sweating, nausea. We have not been successful in finding a doctor with any interest in helping. We too have been told to eat better, increase salt intake and if we really want to go there start taking a low dose of anti depressants. There has to be a better answer out there...If you've got it please post it for the rest of us.
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replied January 31st, 2012
My 15 year old daughter has the same symptoms. They usually occur after she has red meat, hamburger, steak, etc. She feels stomach cramping, has to go to the bathroom, feels the vomiting coming and the bowel movement and then a faint that looks almost like a mini seizure. So now we think it is a red meat intolerance but can't completely be sure. Neurologist ruled out epilepsy, cardiologist ruled our heart problems and said the faint is triggering a seize. So how does all of this work with the digestive system?
So concerned...

She also recollects this happening about 10 times throughout her life but now it is more often and recognizable as a problem.
NV
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replied April 30th, 2012
Hi folks, this happened to me last night. I had some concerns. The doctors at the hospital couldn't tell me why I passed out or what the connection was to my stomach cramps. Funny that it would take me 5 minutes on the internet to find the answer.
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replied April 30th, 2012
Hi folks, this happened to me last night. I had some concerns. The doctors at the hospital couldn't tell me why I passed out or what the connection was to my stomach cramps. Funny that it would take me 5 minutes on the internet to find the answer.
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replied May 7th, 2012
ibs and vaso vagal syncope
This just happended to me for the first time last week. At first I was worried because I've never passed out in my life. I thought it was so odd that it happened during an 'episode of irratible bowel.' I've felt like I could pass out before, but never actually had. It always starts with feeling like I need to sweat but I can't, then a funny 'numbness' in my arms and legs, then I was out. My doctor is doing more tests, but said I should try drinking gatoraid with benefiber in it every day.
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replied June 1st, 2012
almost passing out
Hello, I have been having stomach problems for 3 months. I thought it was h pylori and later another doctor told me that the blood test for h pylori may not have been reliable...anyway, he's telling me that I have IBS. In the last couple of days I almost blacked out 4 times. Two of the times I was doing bench press at the gym, very light weights and started to black out. The other times were when I was getting out of bed or picking up a box off the floor. I'm treating it as dehydration, I hope it will stop....
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replied July 18th, 2012
Garlic, pepper, stress, IBS and blacking out on the toilet.
Reading the above experiences has given me so much comfort. I thought I was the only one. This first happenned to me at 21 and then not again until I was about 35 and then I've had a few instances since. I knew it was related to stress and IBS. I get a bit of warning but not much. Like I feel I have to go to the bathroom, then a wave comes over me and I feel like I really have to go to the bathroom, than I lose sensation in my arms and legs and then my vision starts to white out like a snow storm and then I wake up beside the toilet, sometimes with cuts. Now, when this happens (if at home), I take a comforter/quilt into the bathroom to break my fall. I also see it as a sign from my body that I'm stressed out and need to slow down and be more careful with my food intake. Garlic is the main culprit for me. But onion, pepper (red/green/black table) all can bring this on. Hope this helps some others.
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replied August 6th, 2012
Preventing the Faint!
So what do we call this vasovagal Syncope response, kicked off from digestion issues?

I felt it coming on today in the office... would have been the third black out in total for me ( all in the last year ). I focused on my breathing , went to a toilet cubicle and dropped my head between my legs, this prevents fainting when your blood pressure plummets...

After five minutes of shaking a little and being very dizzy in came out ok... white as a ghost thoug with a weak pulse..

Im happy that Im getting on top of this now, it scared the sh*t out of my girlfriend when I passed out on the toilet while we were on holidays ( second time in total for me - at that point I knew there was some underlying trend) , head hit the floor like a brick and there was a short hyperventilating seizure... I had a ECG and med checkup afterwards ( clear ) before finally realising this was vasovagal response.

By the way thats my own amateur diagnosis via the internet... doctors really have no clue on this one.

It's triggered by pain in my case, internal abdominal cramp - sharp sharp focused kind of pain... then dizziness, then im out. Anecdotally... my mother ( Trained Nurse ) recalls me fainting a handfull of times during childhood... always from extreme pain.

FYI // I've got Green Stool right now with stomach cramps, and :

1. I drank alot of wine yesterday.

2. Drank alot of Coffee today.

3. Am Under huge Stress from Work ( Cancelled holidays, slipping deadlines ).

So there the only things I can think to add to this conversation.

I hope you can all learn to notice trigger signs too, it comes on real quick!

Also , moving about and drinking water may temporarily help raise blood pressure.

Peace,
Rob
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replied August 14th, 2012
Hei guys!

Happy to see that other people are having the same problems! The doctor just told me I have IBS but I have been having problems with my stomach for years now and have fainted many times, always while on the toilet! Lately I have had many bad episodes because I am also under a lot of stress, but I managed to avoid fainting because I usually feel it coming. What I do is try to get my head as low as possible (between your knees) it is kind of difficult while sitting on the toilet, but it is possible! And it is nice if you have something to hold on to. It is far from comfortable but it usually helps for me. Sometimes it doesn't work, if it is really bad. But also that I normally feel coming, then I just lie on the floor and let it pass. Good luck everyone!!
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replied September 22nd, 2012
I've had these spells as well and actually just had one not even 30using minutes ago. It's the reason why I came to this site. All the responses are helpful and it's nice to know that I'm not alone! I have NOT infact passed out from an episode before. I felt like I was seriously going to earlier, but I remember what I used to do as a child whenever I felt nauseated. I felt the intense cramping coming, then I got lightheaded, nauseated, dizzy, broke out into a sweat and became pale. I was obviously constipated and relief wasn't coming quite as soon as I had liked it. After the 2ndgirls wave and feeling really weak, I simply laid on my bathroom floor. The coolness of the floor was instant relief. My nausea went away...the dizziness went away. I still had the wave of cramping but I stayed in the floor, too scared to move really, until I knew that I was ready to relieve myself. And I did. Without the feeling that I was about to die! It worked for me, maybe it can work for others, in the comfort of their own homes of course.
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replied September 22nd, 2012
Ok. My stupid phone likes to add random words to my post.

*30 minutes
*2nd wave
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replied September 25th, 2012
Have you all had an Ova and Parasite stool test? I have had a lot of these same symptoms and a lot of trouble trying to figure it out. I think we have finally figured out the problem. My wife tested positive for a protozoa known as blastocystis hominis, and it hasn't caused her much of an issue, just occasional diarrhea. But two of our kids and I have been having a lot more difficulty, especially me. It is difficult to diagnose because the parasite is not always present in the stool for testing, and then labs often don't recognize it even when it is present in the stool. You might want to consider something like this or Giardia. We picked up this parasite in Africa, but from what I've read some people believe it is the leading cause of IBS in America, and there's a lot of good research to support it.
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replied November 20th, 2012
I'm happy I found this forum. I had many of the same symptoms described by others yesterday evening about an hour after supper. I had to go to the washroom but it didn't seem urgent at first. Once I was on the toilet I started to experience severe cramps and an unbelievable feeling of needing to go to the washroom. The feeling of needing to go to the washroom was so incredibly strong it was disconcerting. Just as I was thinking "this is different" I felt nauseous and at that point I must have passed out. I remember "dreaming" that I had to wake up over and over again and when I became aware again I was leaned over with my face on the floor but I was still partially seated on the toilet. I had gone to the washroom and fortunately into the toilet bowl. I don't think I was out for more than a minute if that. I was shocked to say the least. I was also shaky, weak and very pale but started to feel better quickly. My stomach has been a bit upset since although I had a normal bowel movement today without issues. I'm not sure if it was food poisoning or IBS. I have on occasion had what I would consider strong stomach cramps in the past but nothing remotely close to this.
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replied November 21st, 2012
I am 30 years old and hae been having the same symptoms since i was 16. I passed out from these symptoms just 3 hours ago and hit my head on the floor. I awoke with a racing heartbeat and pouring sweat beside the toilet. I now feel weak my muscles are sore and i just feel generally yucky. For a while a gastorinterolgist was able to manage my symptoms with the following medications.

1Metamucil 3 times a day

2stool softener (non laxative) 2 times a day

3Belladonna/phenobarb tab 2 times a day

I will admit I am pregnant and have not bee taking the metamucil or stool softeners so i once again have become vey sick. The belladonna can not be taken when pregnant and it helped the most. My doc tried metradonizole just in case i had parasites but it made it worse. Just remember you are not alone. do not stand up or walk when you feel this way. Lie down on your side if you can so you dont fall. Take fiber it stops the cramping which presses on the vagal nerve and you wont have these symptoms anymore. Have faith it doesnt work right away and can take 2 weeks to 3 months before you feel the relief i did.STart bland nd when you are better you can work your ay back into the foods you love. My symtoms were so bad i was hospitalized and they found a tumor on my appendix whih was removed. I was nver the same after it and my life has been a battle. No one seemed to understand or care and yet i was so sick! I am glad to have found this site and i hope these medicines can help others with the cramping all 3 together and you wil be right as rain in 6 months with a flatter belly and less bloating i promise! Just dont quit taking them like i did!
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