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Q: Hypersexuality and infidelity
asked by: PaBrokenHart on August 18th, 2009
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Hi everyone,

This is my first post so please reply. Wink Ok here goes... A year ago I found out my wife was cheating on me. I had been dating her for 8 years and married for one, we had just had our first child and just bought our first house, when she began cheating (physically)
My wife is the girl next door type, very innocent, always puts everyone else first, and very sensitive. Or so I thought, It turns out she had been lying to me our whole relationship, first about how many guys she had been with and teh specifics. Basically she has never said no to any guy who wanted to have sex with her, even if she didn't find them attractive. Shhe was faithful to me until her father passed away and she put on a lot of weight. She became depressed and begane chatting online then meeting guys. Fortunately or maybe not at this point it didn't become physical and I almost caught her so she backed off. She continued chatting and having cybersex etc, until right before our honeymoon (while 5 months pregnant) she met a guy she had been talking to for years (who previously said she was too fat, but now said he would hook up with her cuz she lost weight for our wedding) She met him and they kissed. Fast forward a year we have our son and she is still talking to the guy. They decide to meet at her work and have sex, she meets him and a few other guys over the next few months. During this time she goes out of her way to have sex and even give head (which she hates doing)and yet I sit at homeliterally sexually deprived.I catch her and she tries to lie and I drag it out of her, turns out she is like a pathological liar. She tells me it was like she was someone else and she felt like she was out of control and so sexy, etc.. I tell her I want a divorce and she taks suicide and ends up in a hospital where she is diagnosed Bipolar. She swears she will never cheat again her doctors tell me she was truly out of control, I want to forgive her and I have been trying but it's been a year and I just can't. I think the reason this is hard for me is I have questions.

So question 1. Could she be hypersual but not for me? Literally I had to beg for a quickie while she was spending hours with men who she says were not very attractive. (I am a good looking guy) Even though she swears sex with me is the best she has ever had and I know its good. (I understand forbidden sex, provides a rush in it self)IS that normal with hypersexuality or is she lying?

Question 2. Can I truly believe she will never do it again and she feels as disgusted by it as she says? ( I have been watching like a hawk and have key loggers on all our computers. She has been good so far)

Question 3. Is this really Bipolar and hypersexuality? (She also was on a nasty spending spree during this time and binge eating)

Any help is greatly appreciated. I wanna save my marriage and I wanna believe she can be who I thought she was.
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W0LF
replied on August 18th, 2009
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Hey PaBrokenHart
I'm sorry to hear how things have fallen out for you. I have some of the answers you're asking about.

1. I'm honestly not very well read on the specifics of Bipolar Hypersexuality but most compulsive sexual disorders tend to drive people to extremes of sex. The compulsion isn't satisfied by sex that is normal or safe. Also it's not unusual for people who cheat to cut off intimacy with their partner out of the shame they feel for their behavior.
2. No, you should expect this will happen again. She has a disorder, she's getting treatment but it's not like a sprained ankle. Her disorder could be incorrectly medicated, it could resurface without warning. She didn't want to cheat on you the first time, not wanting hasn't stopped her. You may have to accept that doing her best to fight her disorder is all that she can do.
3. Hypersexuality is a Bipolar side effect. Not all Bipolar sufferers have it but it's not very uncommon. It is usually part of a course of disruptive and disconcerting behaviors but certainly it could be the most dynamic part of her disorder.

Let me say this. She couldn't help herself from needing sexual attention and needing to take sexual risks but no part of her disorder prevented her from being honest with you about what she was going through or getting help. You say she was dishonest about her sexual history, also not part of her disorder. It's understandable she may be ashamed of her problem but your marriage should be bigger than either of your problems. Honesty about her disorder and the progress of her treatment is going to have to be a feature of the relationship you both are comfortable with from here on out if this is going to work.

You can't use a keystroke logger to spy on your wife, can't check her phone records, can't hire a detective to trail her. It's disrespectful to you both. If you can't trust your wife you are just riding things out until the divorce. It's not reasonable for you to expect her to be who you thought she was, that woman was a lie. You are married to the woman you are married to. Before you make a decision you should do your best to learn about the woman you married, maybe she's a better person than you thought.
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PaBrokenHart
replied on August 19th, 2009
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Thank you for your reply.
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1understand
replied on August 20th, 2009
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Hope this helps a little
Dear PaBrokenHart,
I am right there with you. I dated the girl next door type who is everything and more like you said. I married her and have been married for 4 years. I recently deployed for my 3rd tour of 15 months and in the last 3 my wife cheated on me. When I came back she lied and tried to get me mad enough for either me to leave her or her to leave me. I finally caught her text messages and proved that she was cheating. Trust me when I say the last few months have been the worst in my life. Well after a lot of book reading on Bipolar, and counseling we have realized that it was her Bipolar mania episode that provoked the problems, and since the doctor that diagnosed her didn't educate her or tell her to educate herself she didn't know the warning signs and was happy because she was carefree in her mania. I would love to punch that doctor out. One thing I have realized during all my educating about bipolar is no matter how much she wanted to be with the guy when I came back she chose to stick with me. Your wife may be in a manic phase but she continually comes back to you so that is a positive. I am also with you on the sex issue. I haven't been with my wife sexually since I went back to Iraq in Jan. Ever since then when I came back in June she hasn't wanted to be with me. One thing for sure is that you have to take care of you. Yea masturbating is a temp fix but nothing compares to the physical bond you share with the one you love during sex. I would recommend sharing your issues with your wife in a calm manner when you feel she is in a stable mood. I also advise you to take some classes on sex. Nothing against you but I know I have been studying like a dog so that when my wife is ready to be with me it is going to be unforgettable for her, and good sex is remembered. Just be careful because even though she is ready half way through she might want to stop and if you don't I will remind you that bad sex is remembered more than good.I hope and pray for you and your family and wish you all the patience in the world because I know I need it and reading your letter it seems you do too.
Take care.
David
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SGhering
replied on August 22nd, 2009
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Brother I know your pain. My wife is bipolar and went into this huge depression fit about two weeks ago. Unfortunatley, her mother lives with us and has legal custody of my wife when she goes into these things. I don't know if my wife is cheating or not. I know she likes to chat with other guys and now that her mom made me move out (house was in her name), I am stuck wondering and worrying. All I can do is just suck it up and pray God is with me. Keep the faith man and don't hesitate to hit me up if you need someone to talk to. It sucks man, trust me.
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PaBrokenHart
replied on August 24th, 2009
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Thanks for the replys guys.

David, Thanks for your story man. A little advice you way if I may... From reading about Bipolar which I have been doing alot of regardless of recognizing the signs if she is not medicated and medicated properly she will not be able to control her mania phases. Make sure she gets on a mood stabalizer and seeks continuous counseling. As for the sex, me and my wife have sex now and it is great sex, she wants me now and truly has changed or has made me believe she has changed. Your situation seems much harder mine so I truly appreciate you trying to help me. You seem to be a stronger man than me and I hope every thing works out for you, also Thanks for serving. ;o)

SGhering... I hope things work out man and I hope she is not cheating. I guess just give it time and hang in there too.
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Paheartbroken
replied on September 12th, 2009
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I know how all you guys are feeling, I begged my wife to go to the doctor, but she wouldn't. Then I filed for divorce, after 6 months of hell, then she decided to go, and she said she had bipolar, but she never stopped having contact with the guy she was cheating on me with. Then I find out now she is in a relationship with this guy. It's sad that she would go get fixed for this guy and she wouldn't do it for our family. Now my son is in a broken home. The strange thing is she still isn't right, because since she left she ask me to forgive her and work it out four times but a week later she's yelling at me and like a different person. I just hope you guys have a better outcome then me. I am still having sad feelings about it I been seeing a counseler for a year now. I have guilt, maybe if I just would have waited a little longer.
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Confused_InLove
replied on September 13th, 2009
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Pat its the disorder don't blame yourself. Today was my wedding day. My fiance left me 2 months ago, No fights, No problems, She just became depressed and decided I will get off my meds (Lexipro) and then it all fell apart. She doesn't mean what she is doing, its the disorder. Don't take it personal. It will drive you crazy, I'm in Havana, Cuba with friends celbrating (well not really) my anti wedding, as I couldn't stay home during my wedding day. There are many of us in your same shoes, its the disorder the bipolar people can't help what they are doing to us.
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PaBrokenHart
replied on September 14th, 2009
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Yeah that is such a hard pill to swallow. As my therapist says..."I am trying to rationalize an irrational behavior, trying to think orderly about a mental disorder" and as long as I keep asking why, I will keep being frustrated, but damn I keep asking why!!
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Confused_InLove
replied on September 14th, 2009
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Look at my name, I know what your feeling. So many other people are in our same shoes. It sucks, but it's par for the course when dating/married to a bipolar person. Trust me it's not easy for me. I've been talking to a therapist already 70 hours in 7 weeks. I'm in your shoes. It's rough for us! I haven't spoken to my ex fiance in 3 weeks. Zero contact, she blocked me from her life all of a sudden.
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CanadianGirl2010
replied on September 14th, 2009
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I just fell for someone who has been honest that he is promiscuous when he's going through a manic episode... what can I do about this? It should be noted that he was totally honest about his being bipolar, and I understand because I am mildly bipolar myself... I love him and I won't leave him over this but what can I do to prevent having my heart broken? he hasn't been able to access meds (because he's not an American citizen) but will soon be able to (because he's moving back to Canada). Can I assume that with meds I won't have to worry?
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tameika
replied on September 14th, 2009
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hi, i have bipolar it has nothing to do with being unfaithful to your partner. iv been with my boyfriend for 8 years and never cheated. the relationship can get a bit normal after this long and could need the sparks renewed, but cheating is not the way!

i would not trust her, she will do it again. maybe not soon but one day. once a cheater always a cheater.

bipolar is not the cause and has absolutley nothing to do with being unfaithful.

if i were you i would leave her atleast for a little while to see if she can earn your trust & not be with other men. she will be fine it her bipolar treatment is working for her.

BEING UNFAITHFUL IS NOT A SYMPTOM OF BIPOLAR!

my heart goes out to all you guys if your wife left you. i feel grateful my boyfriend stayed with me even when i was a mess.
the medication i am on is Seriquel it is a mood stabalizer. and i really dont know where id be today without it!

i hope u all find the happiness that you deserve!
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emilyriley75
replied on September 14th, 2009
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I am really sorry to hear about what happened. I am sure with alot of love your child(or children) will grow up happy regardless of being from a broken home as you said. Sad

I know its hard to walk away but you have to think of the safety and well being of your family. YOU and your child. Your wife is either too far gone with her bipolar and is not seeking the right treatment or is a good actor.

Im really sorry (that may have sounded harsh) ... and i pray that things work out for you as well as your little one. Sad
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PaBrokenHart
replied on September 17th, 2009
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Tameika, While being unfaithful is not a part of being Bipolar, Hypersexuality is and that urge could be like a drug addiction or so I read. The attention and the thrill of doing somethign wrong can be addictive to anyone but a Bipolar can have trouble associating one action to another (Or so the Experts say) As it was explained to me... When manic Bipolars have trouble thinking consequence when acting, they become impulsive. Just because you have never been unfaithful doesn't mean it's not a tell tale sign of the disorder. You may have also never binge ate or spent money w/o regard.

Canadian Girl, The only way he will stop this and be faithful is if he wants to! And he can do that with will power regardless of medication, but to stop the cycling he must have medication and counseling and then even still it will happen but you two will be bale to see it coming and keep him "in line".
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tameika
replied on September 17th, 2009
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pabrokenhart,
no i havent binge ate but have spent way too much money on thing i dont need and am regreting it now!

i just think they shouldnt say "oh i cheated & it was the bipolar" sorry its not a good enough excuse im my opinion.
i think its just in there nature

best wishes!
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Gracie012
replied on September 17th, 2009
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Wait? Their nature? Tameika, people with bipolar disease are all diffrent. Not one person has the same type of symptoms. Same with schitzophrenics. Yes, some may choose to lie about the things they do, or the things their ashamed of, but dont we do it too! The only diffrence is that they are so confused by what is going on, they feel like they have to lie. Not saying thats an excuse, but that it just shows that it is so much harder for them to cope than it is for us! I know you have bipolar disease too, but if you dont mind me saying, I think you need to take into account that your is diffrent then all of these guy"s wives and girlfriends. And theirs diffrent from each others...

But anyways, PaBrokenHart. I really feel for you, and I wish I could help out more, but I think you are doing everything you can right now. You said you made a divorce with her? ok, well there was your first desition. Honey, you now have to decide to live with that desition. Yes, she is haveing a horrible time with her bipolar issues, but at the same time you need to care for yourself. But, if she comes around and tries to win your forgiveness and trust back, then I think you should let her try. If she loves you, and if she wants to fix everything enough, then she will try like none other. I think it will drive her to do better. So, in acuality you did her a favore, you are making her strive for what she wants...

I dont know if this helps, I wish I could do more. My heart is with you...
Gracie.
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tameika
replied on September 17th, 2009
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in response to my last post on this topic:

i know everyone is different

i mean its in the nature of a person not of a bipolar.
some people cheat, some people dont.
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PaBrokenHart
replied on September 24th, 2009
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GRacie, I did not get a divorce, I thought baout it. I still think about it, but i want to believe it was truly out of her control. I want to make it work for my son but i will not be made a fool twice. Fist time shame on them second time shame on me. I'm just worried can i trust she is better and it was out of her control?
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Gracie012
replied on September 24th, 2009
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Ok, thats good to hear that you guys havent divorced...

Well, how is she acting now? Is she still talking to that man online? How is she acting now? Maybe your right, everything she did back then was just the cause of her bipolar disease...but I think I should still point out they were her choices. Though, at the same time you have to take into consideration her condition at the time. She was probably in a really bad state at the time, so everything she was feeling was trippled... man, I really feel for you. This is an absoulutly horrible situation. I wish I could help you more, but I have never even delt with a bipolar person before. I mean, my best friend is schitzophrenic, but thats as close as I have ever been... the most I can do is ask you questions to get you thinkinging, and I can debate with you, and I can reason things out with you. But I cant help you from personal experience, and I cant give you answers. Just possiblilities...
If you'd like to p.m me, I woudnt mind. It might help you a little to argue out some of the situations and your questions. Or just talk about it. Heck! It might just feel good. : )

Hope you and your family are doing even a little better...
Gracie.
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byebipolar
replied on October 28th, 2009
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Sorry for your situation - mine was identical
Jeez PA - I feel like we must be doppelgangers in alternate universes. My ex to be has done everything you speak of, and so did her sister-in-law.

Very simply, I am getting divorced because I have had my heart ripped out and no longer trust her or even like her. The thought of trying to fix things and being with her again makes me feel sick with disgust. She has no desire to change her behavior so it's a moot point.

I had plenty of whores before I got involved with this woman. I did not want another - and I have been 100% faithful to her since we started dating.

You've gotta decide what is right for you and whether you can trust her.

Good luck, and God bless you.

PS. Drop the keyloggers - all it does is give you more heartache.
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