Exactly, Moo. It's different per person and I consider it a personal attack for someone to suggest that an aversion to the state of pregnancy (ask any man how "beautiful" he'd think the idea of another being growing inside of him, pushing his internal organs aside and draining his nutrients is...nobody would fault him for saying "hell no!" but for some reason women are supposed to orgasm at the thought of it) or avoiding it until needed indicates a need for mental evaluation.

Most women don't enjoy pregnancy. Most would rather skip it. Most wouldn't even HONESTLY say it's "beautiful" but they'd lie because society pegs them as awful mothers if they don't proclaim to love every minute of it. The truth is for most women, pregnancy is miserable. They do it because the END RESULT is beautiful FOR THEM. Pregnancy isn't the "miracle", the resulting baby is.

I personally can't imagine someone enjoying sharing their body to that extent for nearly a full year and being so restricted that they can't even eat foods that they would normally enjoy, but I'm not going to second-guess other people. Then once the birth is finished if they choose to breastfeed (and I say "choose" lightly given the pressure on women to bf whether they want to or not), that's an awful lot of restrictions and sharing of one's body. To suggest that anyone should do any of that against their will and then have the gall to suggest that if they would feel trapped, used or diseased by the process they must be mentally unstable is reprehensible.

Pregnancy and parenthood should never be a requirement for living. Children deserve mothers that want them more than comfort or a lack of pain, and women deserve more than being bingo'd into incubating against their true wishes.

Cmyked, not all women want to bear children and quite a few of us are as repulsed by the idea as a male would be. Get used to it. We aren't sick, we simply don't have an urge to reproduce. We aren't your collective.

Pregnancy can be hell on earth, even a wanted one.

What really annoys me is when women that can't naturally conceive treat women that can (whether they want to or not) as personal brood mares, or get irrationally offended when someone that tries very hard not to conceive does so. Breeding can KILL me. It is not MY responsibility in life to ensure that you fulfill your legacy. If you can't find value in simply existing it is YOUR problem, not mine.

I really don't understand why infertile people rag on the "un-natural" process of birth control when they are taking much more un-natural means to try and conceive a child that nature has already told them they should not be having in the first place. I feel for them but their urge to breed is not my job to fulfill, and I really don't think they have any business being "resentful" that my husband and I have sex without wanting or needing children as a result.

Not their bloody business.

OMG that is so true!

I don't get hit over the head by these people too much. Where are you running into them?

We have alot of them here too christ,

Its like well your married, you can have sex and have kids I can't why do you believe in abortion christ I would take your kid.

He got fixed therefore I have no worries at the current time for getting pregnant but just because he got fixed doesnt mean Im someones future surrogate for christs sake. What irritates me is there is millions of children waiting to be adopted why are these people selfish? THEY ONLY WANT NEWBORNS!!!!



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I can't imagine it being that simple either, which is why when pro-choicers try to simplify it to just "her body, her choice" I get very confused.

Creepy! And yes, I've seen them now that you point it out.

Selfish is putting it mildly. I agree with you.

I just hate how some of them will call me selfish but then wont even do anything some of them just irritate me "why dont you put it up for adoption." and it like well why doesnt people adopt the kids that are already there.

It's not quite said here, but people have said that prolife advocates should adopt. I don't think that prolife advocates should be forced to adopt in order to be aligned "correctly" with their political views, just as prochoice advocates shouldn't be forced to support the varying choices of pregnant women financially or whatnot.

Sorry that I didn’t have the time to read every last opinion; so excuse me if I repeated someone else’s opinion.
How far do you want to take this? Every egg has the potential to be fertilized. Every fertilized egg has the potential to go full term. Of those that attain full term, roughly 50% would end up female with eggs that have the potential to go full term. How far should we go when counting the potential loss of life?
As it is, we don’t seam to have the ability to get along enough to take care of the earth that we have.

When I was pregnant my CHILD was inside my womb. The person kicking na dmoving inside of me was no potential, those weren't "potential" kicks and turns or "potentially" sucking his thumb or "potential" heartbeats. WHen you become pregnant and want the pregnancy to occur then you can come on here and say how happy you are about your potential child that you are carrying around. If something is potential it has not yet come into existence. My fetus exists as my offpsring and thus as my child when its alive in my womb. It can be yogi the bear in YOUR womb but a fetus in my womb is my child.

I totally agree, pro-choice doesn't mean you should go paying for everyone's abortion or paying for everyone's decision to keep their child or paying for the medical bills of a woman whose giving her baby up for adoption. It means you support legislation that respects your and her right to choose or not choose to abort. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do however think more responsibilitiy lies with those pro-abortion and anti-choice people like those who want to make it illegal to abort for ANY reason except to save the mother's life and those who encourage abortion and discourage reproduction for all women as if fertility and baby are vile nasty words and a uterus is a curse. Anti-choicers should adopt more and be better parents and be more vigilant against rape and more into birth control while more pro-abortioners should go to medical school to fill the void and need for more doctors who are willing and certified to perform abortions at any stage.

Please don’t get me wrong; I am in awe of all life. It worries me as to how much strain we as humans are placing on our home, earth. I wish that every conception could evolve into an environment with loving supportive family and with all the resources to fully nurture both body and mind. It is repugnant how we as humans can treat other humans. I can’t comprehend how an ego can rational, to its self, domestic abuse. I don’t have the answers. I just try to do my best in my own little cubby.