What you don't seem to understand or care about is that making abortion illegal will not stop these women from seeking one. It will just force them to go riskier routes to achieve one. Coat hangers, drug overdoses, throwing themselves down staircases, or going to some quack "doctor" who uses unsanitized instruments. Not only with the fetus probably not survive, but the mother is at great risk herself.

And who are you to tell these women not to have sex? Do you know their situation? Maybe they were raped and are too embarrassed or scared to tell someone, or maybe they're in an abusive relationship. Maybe they're happily married and their birth control failed. Maybe birth control simply does not work for them. One of our users, CaryFairy, can't use hormonal birth control and has gotten pregnant multiple times on other forms.

Abortion is legal because these women deserve proper medical treatment. If they've made their mind up to have an abortion, they deserve to have one that is quick, sanitary and safe. If you want to stop abortion, you need to try another route. You need to research ways of making birth control more widely available for teenagers and women. You need to volunteer in women's shelters and support groups for rape and abuse. You might want to volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center that offers alternatives to abortion, or volunteer at an adoption agency.

Trying to make abortion illegal is tackling the symptom, not the cause. If you really want to do something about it, you need to get to these women before they've had to make the decision to do this. And that includes NOT making them feel guilty for being a human being and having sex. If you're really going to preach abstinence, you won't get far at all. Try to understand these women, their needs and desires, and their motives, and you might actually make some progress.

What would this world be with 50 million more people in it? 50 million people that were obviously not wanted by their families? Do you think there were 50 million families ready and eager to adopt these children? Do you think there were 50 million happy endings just waiting to write themselves?

Are you aware of the statistics of children waiting in foster care waiting for a family? Are you aware of the statistics of children suffering from loneliness and abuse? I don't exactly see 50 million more of them as a huge blessing. It breaks my heart, actually.

I support a woman's right to choose what's best for herself in her situation. I don't presume to know better for her than she does, and I don't judge her for her decisions. That's what I support. I support her ability to know what's best for herself.

50 million more people in this world doesn't sound like a good thing to me at all. The majority of those potential people were aborted for very good reasons, and long before they were ever able to think, or feel, or do anything remotely baby-like.

Forget the baby growing in her that will be cut into pieces. Forget that it will be sucked out of her with a vacuum ten times as powerful as any of ours. Forget it will never live. The woman knows what's best.

Well said. I am glad you are finally beginning to understand!

wow! it doesn't matter in the least to you that the baby is being ripped to shreds, or stabbed in the nape of the neck with scissors so they can remove the brains? How can you justify that?

The prolife propaganda machine has really worked you over.

I just wanted to say good for you.

really? I just think I've researched it. They really do that stuff you know. If you want the link, I'll send it to you over pm because it is probably over PG 13. It is quite sick to know the truth, huh?

The truth is something you will probably never know.

Yeah, propaganda is really easy to find on the internet.

You know most abortions occur early, and have nothing to do with what you are talking about, blah blah, and you know that late term abortions as you have so eloquently described are rare and done in life/death situations, so c'mon, get with the program.

I've had an abortion and I am well aware of the reality of the situation.

Tell us, then, Juju, exactly what is entailed in the average abortion? How far along is the pregnancy? How big is the "baby"? How developed is it?

I know what happens. The human being sucked out is usually in it's embryonic stage or early fetal stage. And during the process of being sucked out, it dies. And it ends up looking like a mess of tissue even though in life, it was more than just tissue. The suction turned it into something that looks like jello. Size and development don't really matter because it doesn't make anyone-born or unborn-less human.

Don't forget medical abortions -- then it's just like a miscarriage.

Except that it intentionally kills the fetal or embryonic human.

Yeah, well...that's sort of the point. Those who have a problem with that shouldn't have an abortion. The idea of having a human inside me is why I keep a wire coat-hanger handy, just in case.

It doesn't bother me when someone says that, but it does bother me when someone believes that abortion entails anything more than this.

Not all abortions occur at the embryonic stage. So, an abortion CAN entail more than that picture of a dead embryo. The bigger the unborn human, the more you will see.

It does.
When was that? The day she got pregnant? When you get later on, obviously you can see it is more easily a human. That is irrelevant though; even if you were horribly mangled and looked nothing like a human, you still are.
It still kills a child; that is one baby that will look up or see or anything. And it's sad.

Antibigot sorta answered that down there...