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Q: Hi,I know someone who had MS
asked by: GuessingGame on March 2nd, 2009
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hi, I just wanted to let you all in on some hope to those who will listen, i iknow how stubborn some people can be. I know someone with MS. Turns out Most cases,usually all of them are all Spine Vertebra misalignements causing the "flare ups" ect. If you have insurance with Bravo or Medicare, Most likely you can have a good percentage covered by a chiropractor, I recommend seeing 1 and after the session you will see how great you feel. This person I know who achieved Ms free symptoms was working with a guy for some ODD reason was listed under QUACK files in a google search engine,I belive the people attacking him is the Pharmacy saying he's a liar, dangerous ect. If that was so, Why is my friend living as thought they never had MS? I think MS is a SCAM,And do some research- You will find out .....your Spine/vertebra CONTROLS EVERYTHING IN YOUR BODY!!!!
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zigemyster
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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MS a scam? Absolutely not... And by making such a statement you are insulting every MSer and every caregiver who has or continues to help their loved ones who have this unpredictable disease of the central nervous system.

Could it be that your friend was mis-diagnosed with MS? Maybe your friend just needed an alignment and nothing more?

You say 'your spine/vertebra controls everything in your body'

Answer: Not so. Think about this...you have a stomach issue or a heart attack or a blood clot...are these three things controlled by the spine/vertebra? No.

Keyword with MS: Unpreditable....what may work today may not work tomorrow, what works right this minute may not work in 5 minutes...
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Ok let me undo that. MS, erase is not a scam if it makes some feel better..IM AM SERIOUS WITH ALL MY HEART I WOULD NOT BE LOGGING IN TO BASH MS PATIENTS WHEN I KNOW MYSELF OF A FRIEND WHO GOT HELP AND THEY ARE FINE.NO they are were not misdiagnosed..cmon for 6-7 years? by 4-5 different Neurologist? A misdiagnosis? Hard to belive- they have been in the MRI's and everything. Lessions and all- Lets see- Do these sympotms sound like a misdiagnosis? Tingling- Tounge/throat feels numb- stumbling- memory loss, 2am 3am nighly pains- blindness- arms feeling tired as if someone pushed down on your arms and you try to lift them and get no relief- Here are just some of their past symptoms- I dont think that's a misdiagnosis Seriously Look it up! Im telling you MS is in relation to the Spine.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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ok so your telling me that the Spine doesnt control everything, How about a pinched nerve in the spine..Wouldnt that alone cause an inbalance with the normal brain response for the human body's messages and even a delay that would make the organs suffer even just a little bit? I belive so.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Ok so Forget me, But Try this- Call around your area a couple Chiropracters and ask them if the Spinal Structure controls just about everything in the body. There answer will be a firm yes. APART from what you eat of course because it matters what you put INTO your body.
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replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Taken out of A Chiropracters website

"Chiropractic care affects the nerves that are surrounded by your vertebrae. These nerves lead to vital organs, cells and glands that make your entire body, its structure and immune system operate properly on a daily basis.

When your immune system suffers an interference, it can become vulnerable and you may experience pain or get sick. Pain is a sign of tissue destruction. Other problems may actually exist before any pain begins.

When a chiropractor adjusts or realigns misplaced vertebrae (subluxation), he restores the proper nerve and blood flow to your body naturally"
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zigemyster
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GuessingGame wrote:
Ok let me undo that. MS, erase is not a scam if it makes some feel better..IM AM SERIOUS WITH ALL MY HEART I WOULD NOT BE LOGGING IN TO BASH MS PATIENTS WHEN I KNOW MYSELF OF A FRIEND WHO GOT HELP AND THEY ARE FINE.NO they are were not misdiagnosed..cmon for 6-7 years? by 4-5 different Neurologist? A misdiagnosis? Hard to belive- they have been in the MRI's and everything. Lessions and all- Lets see- Do these sympotms sound like a misdiagnosis? Tingling- Tounge/throat feels numb- stumbling- memory loss, 2am 3am nighly pains- blindness- arms feeling tired as if someone pushed down on your arms and you try to lift them and get no relief- Here are just some of their past symptoms- I dont think that's a misdiagnosis Seriously Look it up! Im telling you MS is in relation to the Spine.


This was not in your original post...only MS is a scam...no details... This would be the reason I asked if your friend could have been mis-diagnosed.

If your friend has/had a pinch nerve/nerves and a chiropractor was able to get him/her realigned and he/she feels better then that could explain some of these symptoms.

Again, MS is an unpredictable disease of the central nervous system...it will come and go when it decides when it wants to give one grief or relief.

Having a misaligned spine for whatever reason may cause a number of health problems but I know for a fact it is NOT the reason a person has MS.

Let me see if I understand you... If a person is given a dx of MS and in order to eliminate MS then all that person needs to do is get an alignment?
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zigemyster
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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GuessingGame,

You've been busy... explain plaques on the brain and spine, can you?

What about the ones who have gone this route...alignments and all and still nothing...what about the ones who eat healthy and exercise and basically do all the right things and then get hit with MS?

Do you have an alternative answer?
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Let me see if I understand you... If a person is given a dx of MS and in order to eliminate MS then all that person needs to do is get an alignment?

There are a number of factors 1st to cause a misalignment- Stress. Hurt your back ,ect. If your a stressful person that alone can cause a misalignment in your vertebre. So that would mean you need to work on yourself mentally to not be stressed to undo what a chiropractor has fixed. Chiropracter's will tell you to come in to do as many adjustments you need until everything stays in place- Sometimes they will ask you when you go in "Boy your backs all messed up, what did you do, did you stress yourself out?"
Sometimes some people could have degnerative disk's that cause MS Symptoms. But I am not here to diagnose Ms'ers. Im here to tell them to go make an appointment to see a chiropracter to get ready to be amazed with the results of their Spine review. Go ahead forget about me though.. and type in Google. "Multiple Sclerosis Chiropractor"
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replied on March 3rd, 2009
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you know what I think. I think you are trying to be smart in all respect and bash me for something that Is researched and proven and put doubt in the Ms'ers on the forums. Dont ask me anymore because I am not out to make a forum battle. But I find it impossible that Ms'ers have gone that route of chriopractic care and recieved no Results. Maybe a Poll should be put up for the MS PAtients asking questions like " Have you eaten healthy all your life" "have you done chiropractic care and seen no results?" and we can go from there.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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but your questioning Does not Justify the fact that I have a friend- Who was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, Not once not twice confirmed. Who never was even givin a Spine test, and if anything was Knocked up more on their Prescription Drugs that sent them down a spiralling depressive life. Now today they are off med's, no symptoms, working on Stress relief Exercises and under Chiropractic care. I belive Ms doesnt exits. Go and see a Chiropractor.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Scientist show that actually even someone with No Multiple sclerosis can even have lessions.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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For some reason thought Doctors and Chiropractors do not see Eye to eye. I wonder why. Can you answer this? I Guess a pill is supposed to fix everything..More money in there pockets.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Im done with this board. I see you are a Mod. You can Close it for discussion or if you have a heart you can leave it up and let the Ms'er judge based on their history of life, to recall a possible accident of falling ect. that then triggers "MS" and I hope some will accept this and do make an appointment because It depresses me because I do care for these people because I have been around it all my life and seen all the downs of it and I feel so horrible and want them to be happy to seek chiropractic care and to know there is a Cure for everything. If you want to continue saying there is none, go ahead - But they say there is no cure for cancer either but Listed in Doc. you will see real people who cured their cancer by changing their Diet. I belive however MS works on 2 factors, changing your diet and getting care for the spine.
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Im sorry I keep saying "My Belief" "I belive" let me rephrase to ..."Proven Studies"
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zigemyster
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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GuessingGame wrote:
you know what I think. I think you are trying to be smart in all respect and bash me for something that Is researched and proven and put doubt in the Ms'ers on the forums. Dont ask me anymore because I am not out to make a forum battle. But I find it impossible that Ms'ers have gone that route of chriopractic care and recieved no Results. Maybe a Poll should be put up for the MS PAtients asking questions like " Have you eaten healthy all your life" "have you done chiropractic care and seen no results?" and we can go from there.


You are incorrect in your thinking that I am trying to be smart and bash you.

This is what I am getting from you...tunnel vision with regards to MS / Chiro. And I see that you failing to see the full picture of what MS truly is.

Go ahead, place these two polls and see what you get. I for one will be the first to answer no to "have you eaten healthy all your life"...

I for one have gone the chiropractic route with no improvement. For others it will work to some degree, some get worse...it depends on the person / chiro...

MS can be triggered by different things..one being a virus.

Why would the government accept responsibility of MS when one of their military personnel falls victim to such?
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zigemyster
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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No need to go, we're just getting started...
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Why do you stray from Chiropractic care and MS, all the way to the Goverment. I will not debate the Goverment Issues. I am sorry about that, I thought you were I have been bashed before by unbelivers. And some I have not and they seeked helped via chiropracter and good reports came from them.

MS from research not under the MS Foundation. Under other Foundations that are in a sense underground but Legit confirmed info say MS is triggers by many years of improper eating that makes your system out of wack which can cause the nerves to swell and not function proper and become like rubber. Ms Patients suffer from Bowel Disorders usually--Do they Not? Ms is also triggered by hurting yourself in your spine. That also has been confirmed. Another is Stress to deform the Spine.
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zigemyster
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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GuessingGame wrote:
but your questioning Does not Justify the fact that I have a friend- Who was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, Not once not twice confirmed. Who never was even givin a Spine test, and if anything was Knocked up more on their Prescription Drugs that sent them down a spiralling depressive life. Now today they are off med's, no symptoms, working on Stress relief Exercises and under Chiropractic care. I belive Ms doesnt exits. Go and see a Chiropractor.


Your friend was never given a spine test...do you mean spinal tap? This is not needed to confirm a dx of MS however it is needed in order to rule out other diseases that mimic MS.

Not everyone who has MS is loaded up on meds, at least I'm not...

What other test(s), if any was your friend given to confirm his/her dx.

Lesions on the brain can be caused by other things...stroke, migraines...however lesions on the spine are generally MS related.... Note that depending on the location of said lesions on the brain can generally be id'd as whether they are from MS, stroke, migraines, etc... and can also determine what issues a person will encounter...then again MS is tricky...
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GuessingGame
replied on March 3rd, 2009
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Even Montel Williams gives praises to chiropractic care. Once the adjustments are done it is up to the MS patient to keep everything In place, to eat right and to not stress themselves out to cause it to be undone. Unfortunanlty misaligning vertebra's is like a relapse because the person made it happen, but their lifestyle, Sitting at the pc to long, sitting wrong, Stressing out, falling. All that can undo what a chiropracter fixed. I have a Chriopracter who totally agrees MS is in the Spine as well if this helps any.
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