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amandaanderson

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Help!! unusual behavior ~ temper tantrums, fits of rage
Posted: 11-16-07 21:36pm

I really need some useful advice. My five year-old daughter has fits of rage…..now when I tell people this they usually say, “what five year-old doesn’t have an occasional fit?” No, it‘s not just a fit. My daughter throws herself on the floor and injures herself. Screaming so hard she throws up or gets a bloody nose. She has kicked holes in her door and wall when we try to discipline her by putting her in her room. And they can last for hours and hours.
It seems like she has unusual behavior for a five year-old. When she’s having a fit or about to, she wants things done a certain way. Like almost OCD. An example is: When she is throwing a fit, she wants me to pick her up in front of her by her head in just a certain way. Now maybe this is her way of controlling the situation, but, it is the only thing that will calm her down. If I do not do things a certain way, these “fits” will last hours.
I have talked to my pediatrician about this. But he just doesn’t get it. Unless you see her in action it’s hard to grasp. And I do not want to put my daughter in a situation where she is medicated. Maybe there is even a book…..any suggestions?
Thanks!!
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Posted: 11-16-07 22:25pm

There are so many possibilities. It's difficult to say what's going on without seeing her. Is she in Kindergarten? If she is in Kindergarten and demonstrates behaviors there, perhaps you can ask the school psychologist and other staff members to observe her in the classroom and start from there. Regular pediatricians are not behavioral specialists or psychologists; it's not their area of expertise. I would want to know what happens when she throws these tantrums. There is usually a reason, such as overstimulation in the environment or like you said, she wants things done in a specific way. Did she attain her developmental milestones on time? How is she with her adaptive skills such as daily living skills, communication, socialization?? There are just so many questions. The behavior that you described is atypical of a five year old. Usually five year olds will have fits, may throw themselves on the ground when not getting there own way but they don't do so to the extent you are talking about. You are doing the right thing by seeking answers. Often times, parents of young kids don't know who to go to besides their pediatrician. Some are good but they are medical doctors. They can rule out medical diagnosis but are not typically mental health professionals. Much too often people rely on what they say as the "sole" answer.

Do you live near a Children's Hospital? Do you have good insurance? Children's Hospitals usually have pretty good clinical psychologists.
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Posted: 11-16-07 23:38pm

Thanks for the fast reply! She is in Kindergarten. But she is a different little girl in school and most public places. Very reserved, shy, quiet, sweet. (She is also very sweet at home, when she’s not having a melt down.) And I do not believe her school has a psychologist. They have a nurse and counselors.
Some of the time the tantrums are do to over-stimulation, sugar, or lack of sleep…..but I do not believe it’s the cause. Those elements do cause for us to have a worse day, but, we are very careful and it is rare for a sugar over-load or lack of sleep. Plus there are plenty of days when a melt down comes out of no where. And it’s almost always because things are not done a certain way…..not because she’s not getting her way. She wants it done a specific way. I hope that makes sense.
As far as her behavioral skills, she is a normal five year-old girl. She has always been average or above average.
We do have good health coverage. And we do live close to a Children’s Hospital. I just am a little naïve and do not want my little girl to be poked and prodded at. And actually I do not even know where to start. Do I just call Children’s up?
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Posted: 11-18-07 01:56am

My suggestion is that you bring your child to see a child psychologist, as soon as possible let them see what's is it that makes your child behave that way it's better to consult them now than later, the earlier the better, prevention is better than cure. It may be due to somethings that happened in school have you asked the teachers?
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Posted: 11-18-07 11:48am

Honestly, it's a good thing that she is a different child in school and in public. If they haven't seen any of the behaviors your are seeing, it means that she can control it to some point. If she in kindergarten for a few hours a day, there is a possibility that she just hasn't had any of those behaviors because school is not long enough. School is a place that a lot of children with behavior difficulties will melt down due to overstimulation, lack of control over their environment and having to deal with so many different children (just to name a few reasons).

I would call up the psychology department at children's hospital and speak with the receptionist. Ask her about the steps to get your child seen. Since her behavior only occurs at home, I don't think they will "poke or prode" her. They may either do a full psychological assessment or consult with you to give you ideas on what to do. When we have children whose behavior is a little out of the norm, it usually helps to have someone else help us to think outside of the box.

You may want to call the school psychologist and talk with him or her about what you are going through. They also may know more about resources in your community and can help steer you in the right way. At least they can be a good person to consult.

Good luck
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Posted: 11-26-07 02:37am

Have you considered autism? I'm actually not quite sure of the symptoms of autism in younger children, but the calming part triggered the thought that if she wants to be picked up a certain way, maybe she's trying to express another need than simply bein upset b/c she can't get what she wants?
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Posted: 12-18-07 13:26pm

One symptom of autism is no eye contact when the child is call - I know this from my sister her daughter is autistic.
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