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Posted: 04-13-08 20:33pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | gobbledygook
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What will happen to all of the straight
people already married? Will they all
have to stop calling themselves
"married"? |
She misspoke or just plain lied. Gays do
NOT want the word marriage "just" for
themselves - they want EVERYONE who is an
adult to have the right to marry another
adult. Male female, Male male, Female
female. |
Correct Eiri. They want to own the word
marriage like us. And you could tell them
about having a different word with exact
same rights like a marriage and they will
tell you no, they want the word
"marriage".
Have you noticed those who can't own the
word marriage want to have it and those
who can have it don't want
it. |
You can't tell black people that having a
separate school is equal, either. They
wanted and deserved in EVERY school, white
or black.
You couldn't tell people not to marry
outside of their race, either.
And you can't tell people not to marry the
same gender.
I have noticed on THIS forum many women
hate the concept of marriage, which I find
preposterous. I can understand a little
where they're coming from, but they just
sound jaded and hostile.
Gays want marriage because they know what
it means; they respect the message and
ideals and symbolism of marriage. It isn't
gays who are destroying the institution of
marriage; it is the straight people who
are divorcing!!
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gobbledygook
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Posted: 04-13-08 20:37pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | They want to own the word
marriage like us. And you could tell them
about having a different word with exact
same rights like a marriage and they will
tell you no, they want the word
"marriage".
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So gay people don't want to own the word
marriage, or they do want to, which is it?
Two groups of people cannot both own the
same thing. I think you are trying to say
the opposite of what you appear to be
saying. Do you mean that gay people want
NO ONE to "own" (i.e. have exclusive right
to use) the term "marriage"? So that all
people can be treated equally by being
allowed to use the same term, "marriage"?
That sounds like a great idea to me.
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Posted: 04-13-08 20:41pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Good point Darkmoon!! The
word marriage is not OWNED by the
Christian
church. |
The church doesn't mean to own the word.
You can give any definition you want to
the word. The church just defined what is
"marriage" for christians. And for us
sodomite unions will never be a
"marriage". That's
it. |
Ah, so lesbian relationships will be
considered marriage, since they don't
involve sodomy?
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Posted: 04-13-08 20:43pm
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| gobbledygook
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | They want to own the word
marriage like us. And you could tell them
about having a different word with exact
same rights like a marriage and they will
tell you no, they want the word
"marriage".
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So gay people don't want to own the word
marriage, or they do want to, which is it?
Two groups of people cannot both own the
same thing. I think you are trying to say
the opposite of what you appear to be
saying. Do you mean that gay people want
NO ONE to "own" (i.e. have exclusive right
to use) the term "marriage"? So that all
people can be treated equally by being
allowed to use the same term, "marriage"?
That sounds like a great idea to
me. |
I can't tell if you're actually ignorant
or being sarcastic, Gobble.
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Posted: 04-13-08 20:46pm
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| Vexing
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Good point Darkmoon!! The
word marriage is not OWNED by the
Christian
church. |
The church doesn't mean to own the word.
You can give any definition you want to
the word. The church just defined what is
"marriage" for christians. And for us
sodomite unions will never be a
"marriage". That's
it. |
Ah, so lesbian relationships will be
considered marriage, since they don't
involve
sodomy? |
Lol, good point Vexing.
And Nightangel, I am
one of "you", and if my opinion is
different than yours, then clearly you
cannot speak for the entire Christian
population. I should think the number of
gay ministers and other clergy-members
would speak for itself: Gay Marriage as a
legal institution of the Christian church
is coming, and soon.
Go cover your head and don't touch your
husband when you're on your period.
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Vexing
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Posted: 04-13-08 21:02pm
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Don't forget to stone your friends and
family if they do any work on the sabbath!
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Posted: 04-13-08 21:14pm
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...and if they wear two different cloth
types! If Christians followed all of
their little laws there would be homicide
a-plenty. Hypocritical, sanctimonious
salad-bar bigots.
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Posted: 04-13-08 21:17pm
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Dang, I need to tell all of my homo
friends that they can't be married because
if they do it might totally disrupt the
meaning of marriage between myself and my
husband!
Get a brain, please. If the meaning
behind your personal union is so easily
unhinged because of the actions of people
completely unrelated to you then you need
couple therapy. Your union is weak and
materialistic if its importance is defined
only by your petty rules.
Stop acting like a brat.
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Posted: 04-13-08 21:45pm
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| Darkmoon
wrote: | | ...and if they wear two
different cloth types! If Christians
followed all of their little laws there
would be homicide a-plenty. Hypocritical,
sanctimonious salad-bar
bigots. |
Now now, we're not all bad.
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Posted: 04-13-08 21:47pm
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True, I should not generalize so much.
Some Christians aren't sanctimonious
poop-heads. It's a real shame that the
ones that aren't are an endangered
species.
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Posted: 04-13-08 23:07pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Good point Darkmoon!! The
word marriage is not OWNED by the
Christian
church. |
The church doesn't mean to own the word.
You can give any definition you want to
the word. The church just defined what is
"marriage" for christians. And for us
sodomite unions will never be a
"marriage". That's
it. |
If a married man and woman have anal sex,
are they in a "sodomite union"?
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Posted: 04-13-08 23:11pm
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| Darkmoon
wrote: | I'm actually looking
forward to when Karma gives your superior
butt a good kick.
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Oh Darkmoon and you bet Karma is already
giving me a good kick in the butt. My
mother in law has been living in my house
since january and still that creature
doesn't go!! This is what I call bad
karma!! 
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Posted: 04-13-08 23:23pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | Darkmoon
wrote: | I'm actually looking
forward to when Karma gives your superior
butt a good kick.
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Oh Darkmoon and you bet Karma is already
giving me a good kick in the butt. My
mother in law has been living in my house
since january and still that creature
doesn't go!! This is what I call bad
karma!! |
What's wrong with living with your
husband's mom?
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Posted: 04-14-08 00:10am
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| gobbledygook
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Good point Darkmoon!! The
word marriage is not OWNED by the
Christian
church. |
The church doesn't mean to own the word.
You can give any definition you want to
the word. The church just defined what is
"marriage" for christians. And for us
sodomite unions will never be a
"marriage". That's
it. |
If a married man and woman have anal sex,
are they in a "sodomite
union"? |
In some interpretations yes.
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Posted: 04-14-08 00:23am
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Eiri, how long have you been a Christian?
I didn't realise you were!
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Posted: 04-14-08 09:28am
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Since somewhere in February XD It's been a
slow decision.
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Posted: 04-14-08 10:48am
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Oh wow, I'm pleased for you. I'd love to
have a faith I believed in but I'm not
there yet.
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Posted: 04-14-08 10:57am
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I'm still learning to re-accept it.
Sometimes I doubt it, and then I have to
think about how good I felt when I finally
confessed to myself that I was; that helps
a lot 
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Posted: 04-14-08 11:10am
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I know that good feeling, I get it
sometimes when I think about God but then
I just get too many doubts.
Good luck with it, I imagine it's not the
easiest of paths to take.
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Posted: 04-14-08 11:11am
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Out of interest, has it changed any of
your opinions on abortion?
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