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Q: foods for hypoglycemia
asked by: Konnor5092 on June 21st, 2008
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I was curious to know peoples thoughts on the folowing foods as part of a hypoglycemic diet.

Sausages, bacon, burgers - Obviously high in protein and fat, but do they stimulate a radical change in blood sugar? If these are attempted would it be a case of scanning the ingredients thouighraghly first?

oatbran - Has been my breakfast of choice for a couple of weeks (combined with protein/fat). Difficult to say whether it has had any negative effects as I tend to feel pretty lowsy in the mornings anyway.

barley - Not currently consuming this in any form. If spotted on the ingredients list is it anything to worry about?

Natural and artificial flavors - Again I stay clear of these for the most part. I assume they differ to sweeteners. Can they be tolerated?

wheat - Have often had wholewheat biscuits (health food shop version of weetabix) and dabbled with whole wheat cous cous and pasta. Also the sprouted bread I can find locally is sprouted wheat bread.

rye - think I'm gunna stay clear from this. Wasn't aware that it may cause a rise in blood sugar. Should it be avoided?

If I was to avoid all of the above, my only (knowing) carb option would be brown rice!

I can think that other options would be apples, legumes, brocolli, cauliflower etc. Can just these be used to make up the carbohydrate content of a meal?

Thanks,
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Stan
replied on June 21st, 2008
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1. Those meat products typically have some form of sugar added to them.

2. Oatbran sucks. Look for Ezekiel cereal if you want to eat something like that.

3. Barley, as other grains, should be sprouted.

4. It's best to avoid unnatural foods for optimum health, but those things don't actually stimulate blood sugar or insulin in any way.

5. There are actually sprouted grain biscuits out there too if your stores carry them. Avoid cous cous.

6. Same idea with the grain thing I mentioned above, haven't eaten rye in awhile, so can't say for sure.

7. The body can run surprisingly efficient on a higher protein, lower carbohydrate diet, so don't worry if you need to cut out a lot. Fruits are good for this, but avoid bananas. You don't want to eat too much though. Avoid legumes.
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Konnor5092
replied on June 21st, 2008
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ta,

Unfortunately nowhere in the UK or online sells the ezekiel products you mention. Had a look at the site and the stuff does look good! Sprouted stuff seems to be in short supply over here.

I'm a bit cautious of fruits at the mo. Got this horrendous brain fog and fatigue today and the only thing I can pinpoint diet wise is the apple I had before bed (had some protein about a half hour before but probly wasn't 'close' enough).

Just got to keep plugging away I suppose. Currently approaching the end of week 4 on the diet, although realistically I've only done 1 week on low carbs.
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VictoriaGB
replied on July 7th, 2008
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Be careful with fruit. I couldn't eat it for a long time. Fructose is a monosaccharide after all, just like glucose. If you can tolerate it then have it, otherwise avoid it.

Certain veggies are higher in carbohydrate, peas, sweetcorn, carrots...Some people are fine with these, some have to limit or avoid them. Again, eat what you can tolerate.

A low carbohydrate diet can be helpful. If you do eat carbs, make sure it's healthy complex carbs like brown rice, as you suggested. Eat what you can tolerate.

Unfortunately there's no straight "eat this, avoid this" answer. Each person with this condition will tolerate different amounts of carbohydrate, so eat what you can tolerate Smile

One more thing that's very important, is portion size. Something that's greatly over looked. Keep your meals small and frequent, do not over eat or this in itself can cause symptoms.
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kaaji
replied on August 8th, 2008
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How do you guys decide which food is bad and which food is good?By deciding how you feel after feeling a particular food right? But for me despite being on the same kind of food for two different weeks,One week i will be completely normal and another week i will feel totally bad,dizzy and ,weak.How am i gonna decide what kind of food is right for me ?
I have gone through almost all of the discussions here in the forum from which i can conclude that i have hypoglycemia ,My 3 hours GTT test was normal( I was feeling good that day)..i did not feel bad for around 15 days after that but now it is back again..I have not changed my diet i have not changed anything .Is this what happens in hypo? sometimes i feel its all Psychological when i am enjoyin with my friends or i am busy on certain things symtoms show up rarely.(0only some times they show up)When i think about them ,they get aggravated.I never had sleepless nights like many hypoglycemics,and I always feel fine after i eat even after 1 or 2 hours of meal.I am really confused as to what it really is.i am 27 years old male.I cant remain hungry for more than 10 minutes i feel really shay and i really get afraid of being passed out however i have never fainted but this fear that i am gonna faint is very real and aggravates when i am alone.are these all symtoos of hypo?I anticipate reply from all of you.Thanks
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VictoriaGB
replied on August 9th, 2008
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The first thing you need to do is go to your doctor.

It may be hypoglycemia, it may not. To me it doesn't sound like it. Keep in mind these symptoms can be common to many conditions and it may be that they're not diet related at all.
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kaaji
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Could you help me out Stan?
Thanks Victoria GB for the answer.What else can cause this kind of symtoms Victoria GB?I have seen my doc and he did tests.All my blood work came out normal.My 3 hours GTT was normal.Thyroid was good and so were kidney and liver values.
I moved to USA from my home country for further study 7 months ago and the sysmtoms started around 15 days after i reached here.The few attacks were very very strong.After that i used to get hungry quite often and when i eat i was fine.But some day out of the blue full blown symtoms would occur and reamin for 2-3 days.After that i woud be fine again.last week i was doing very good with timely eating .Now this week with the same food i dont feel good.I dont have lots of friends here and i am kind a all alone.Can this be the reason for the symptom if not hypo? Can Panic Attacks do this?
I have strange fear of passing out ,this fear becomes very strong when i am all alone.I have never passed out however.Does this come with hypo?Also regarding the diet thing,since i feel good and bad with the same food, i am confused.
I have been taking shilajeet for 20 days now, the heart pounding symtomps during attack has reduced a lot and i dont feel very weak as well.But the bad feeling and dizzyness is still persistent.What is your take on this STAN?
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Stan
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Honestly, it sounds like there is no real connection to your eating. Based on what you've said you're likely throwing yourself into an attack with those thoughts. There are several reasons why I think this:

1. You're in a new place.

2. The symptoms started AFTER you got here.

3. The first few were strong.

4. Same food, no real differences.

5. Fear of passing out.

6. Happens when ALONE.

7. Generally feeling bad with dizziness.

These are all common anxiety symptoms. However, it is somewhat possible that changing your diet may have caused something. Where did you come from and what was your lifestyle like there as opposed to here?
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kaaji
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Thanks for the reply Stan
I come from Nepal.A country neighnbouring India.I was with my family at home and used to eat Rice and Lentils and my major staple.I stay with few room mates but i am in general alone with very less extra activity,which was not the case when i was at home.
For first few weeks my diet was disrupted and i eat fast food.But then once i was setteld i started eating home like food.I eat basmati Rice and lentils .It is the basic staple that i have.
Its true that it started when i came here there are few more things that i wanna add.
When i am totally absorbed on something and enjoying myself i will be fine without eating for a longer period of time.But when i realize that its been a long time i havent eaten i start getting symptoms.This doesnt happen all the time.Some times I get the symptoms even when i am totally busy.But no matter what the symtoms are greatly relieved when i eat something.Fear of passing out and finally dieing is also incresed when i have that symtom.I also have pain in the back exaclty at the end of the ribcage.I Occasionaly itpains when i press it there.I there a chance of Insulinoma ?or some kind of tumour in pancreas?
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Stan
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Hmmm, if you feel better when you eat it's possible there's something going on there. Pain in the back could be anything, or you could just be taking a minor symptom and thinking too much of it. The only true symptom of hypoglycemia that is not found in other disorders is a swollen, tender pancreas that can be discovered by pressing in the FRONT a little below the ribs. The back, no. Pancreatic tumors are quite rare. Could I see your GTT results?
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VictoriaGB
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Stan wrote:
Honestly, it sounds like there is no real connection to your eating. Based on what you've said you're likely throwing yourself into an attack with those thoughts. There are several reasons why I think this:

1. You're in a new place.

2. The symptoms started AFTER you got here.

3. The first few were strong.

4. Same food, no real differences.

5. Fear of passing out.

6. Happens when ALONE.

7. Generally feeling bad with dizziness.

These are all common anxiety symptoms. However, it is somewhat possible that changing your diet may have caused something. Where did you come from and what was your lifestyle like there as opposed to here?


Hey Stan, we agree on something Very Happy

The fear is the red flag for me. I'm surprised your doctor hasn't considerd the possibility of anxiety or panic attacks.

When my husband moved to the UK from America he was a little unwell at first. He was in a new country, and despite his diet being 'the same' as back home, it was different enough (in ways that weren't obvious to us) to cause him serious problems. He got used to the food here, his body and mind adjusted and he's better now. It may be that you'll feel better in time and you'll settle down. How long have you been in the new country?

Pancreatic tumours are very rare, I think if this is the cause you would be more unwell than you are and you would feel unwell much more often - no 15 day breaks. It's a serious condition.

Are you able to go back to a doctor?
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Stan
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Hahahha, this time... Well, it's kind of hard to avoid the possibility in this case, lots of the things they mentioned are dead giveaways.
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kaaji
replied on August 14th, 2008
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Hi Stan ,My GTT report
Hi Stan and Victoria ,thanks for the reply i really appreaciate you for reading through my ramblings.
The following was my GTT report
8 hour fasting :88
30 Min after 75 gm sugar :135
60 Min : 122
90 Min : 138
120 Min : 112
150 Min : 102
On tthe test day morning i was feeling fine ,I was feeling a little jittery but i did not have full blown symptoms.I generally dont have symtoms in the morning.I will be fine in the mornings,at max some day i will have a little headache or mild weakness but thats torerable.I get symptoms generally at around 6 in the evening.I eat my lunch by 1 in the afternoon.

You guys say that Fear is not hypo symtoms but i read somewhere that hypo causes adrenaline secretion which causes nervousness and anxiety like symtom and fear is one of those symtoms.You guys never get the feeling of fear during the symptoms?

Today i was feeling slightly jittery and weak from the morning,but was doing fine.
Everything that i ate was usaul, I was busy and working on something at around 6 in the evening my heart started pounding out of no where and suddenly i felt so bad.I grabbed a candy that would be equivalent to 2 mnm's ( small choclate with 20 grams of sugar in it),then i was fine in a while.Nothing happend.I eat nothing for next 2 hours and i was completly fine.
According to what i have read, in hypo if u eat a choclate you will feel fine for sometime but after while you will have higher insulin secretion and you wont feel good.But this did not happen to me. I confused.
Also people say that they crave sweet when they have symtomps for me in general i crave heavy food that can fill up my stomach..actually that is what makes me feel better.
I am a very happy guy and dont have any real life crisis or any thing.Its just that the place and situation is new for me.Can that be anxiety or panic attack.When i first had this kind of symptoms ( 6 months back when i came here)i was really really scared because i was alone and i was in an unknwon place and i used to be very tensed about me getting somekind of bad disesase in a strange land wihout any of the people that i know.that migh t explain the initial annxiety attacks.
But now i no longer have such worries.If this was anxiety why is it still bo
thering me?
Is it true that anxiety makes you wanna eat more as well
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