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Q: Feminine Deodorant Suppositories
asked by: brighteyes4starsr on August 8th, 2008
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I'm interested in using Norforms (a vaginal suppository) to control my feminine odor but am having trouble finding out if the ingredients are water-based. This information is vital because I use latex condoms as contraception and if the ingredients are not water-based then I need to switch to the other type.

The ingredients are listed below and I've been able to find that everything is water-based or proven compatible with latex condoms except for two ingredients: Fragrance and Neutresse (Odor Synthesis). I called the company, C B Fleet Company, for ingredients but their only comment was that the product has not been tested for use with condoms. And Neutresse seems to be a proprietary/federally trademarked compound.

On some of products manufactured by this company (C B Fleet company) it is listed as Neutresse (Veilex) or Neutresse (Ordenone) and searching on the web lead me to a site that indicated that Ordenone is available as both water- and oil-based. As to what is in the Fragrence, who knows?

So Naturally I am concerned, as should all women, about companies marketing products for use internally (in the vagina), but not having conducted appropriate clinical trials to establish their compatibility with condoms. It seems irresponsible and negligent on their part.

So how do I figure out what is in this product?

INGREDIENTS: PEG-20, PEG-32, PEG-20 Sterate, Benzethonium Chloride, Methylparaben, Lactic Acid, Fragrance, Neutresse (Odor Synthesis).
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motherofhighspiritedones
replied on August 8th, 2008
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Call them back up and ask if their fragrance is derived from water based products or oil based products. Also, ask them if the type of Neutresse they are using is water based or oil based. If you cannot get a straight answer, avoid the product. I totally agree with you about the irresponsiblity and negligence on their part to research the usage of their product with condoms.
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Georgia59
replied on August 9th, 2008
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Ok, I'll say this before I launch into the lecture you didn't ask for lol..... sorry I have a tendancy to do that!! But I'd be a lot more worried about, say, the lactic acid. I think this product is NOT benign or natural and seems like it might break down latex. If oil can do it, acid certainly can, right? I don't really know, this is just my speculation. Since they haven't done the research, they probably can't tell you anything (legally) about how they might interact with condoms. And since they haven't done the research, I wouldn't trust it, even if you find out that there's not oil. Oil's not the only thing you should worry about.

Ok, now for the lecture you didn't ask for lol.....


The vagina is a self cleaning organ. A healthy vagina does not need deodorant. Are you having problems with infections, or are you just self conscious about your natural scent? A slight smell is normal, but if it smells foul or strong, that's a sign of infection.

Umm.... did you think about looking for studies or trials to determine if this was safe to put in your vagina? That seems like it should be your first concern.... it doesn't sound very safe to me, actually it sounds like you will get infections from it.

But I don't know, if you decide to use it, let us know how it worked out.

I tried to find info on it online, but couldn't find anything reliable. It doesn't seem that it's FDA approved or that ANY research has been done on it. It seems like a gimmick to play on women's self-consciousness, at least in my opinion. Just like douches, that doctors now say are a BAD idea and totally not necessary.
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Zanny
replied on August 9th, 2008
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I agree with Georgia59. There's no need to use vaginal deodorant, & if it could potentially interfere with the effectiveness of condoms then it's definitely not worth using it. I know it's easy to become self-conscious of your vaginal odour, especially when your partner performs oral sex on you etc., but unless the smell is extremely unpleasant, like a fishy one, then it's normal.

If you really want to use it then maybe you should consider switching to a different form of contraception, like the pill, so there's no chance of the deodorant affecting it.
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brighteyes4starsr
replied on August 10th, 2008
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Thanks
Thanks for all of the comments:)

I've realized that my question is if there is a way to get information about the components of proprietary/trademarked compounds when the company isn't forthcoming?
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Georgia59
replied on August 11th, 2008
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Since it's not an FDA regulated product, there's really no way you can go about it except for the company itself.
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brighteyes4starsr
replied on August 15th, 2008
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Wow
That is something I didn't know and it seems kind of wrong. I can understand wanting to keep the exact amounts of each constitute of the compound a secret, but not the actual ingredients. What if someone has an allergy?

For all of the lotions, sunscreens, soaps, etc. that I use I have been able to determine from just a web search what the trademark product contain--I do it because I am sensitive to alot of things--but it seems even more important to make the same information available for a product that will be used internally.
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Georgia59
replied on August 15th, 2008
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I know. That's why I wouldn't use it. It's like that with many "alternative health" products, there's no regulation at all on what they can and can't put in them, and how they have to label their products. So if it's not FDA regulated, there's just no way you can know for sure because no one will make them tell you what's in it.

Yeah, annoying!
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