Hi there Peter

You don't seem to be drinking enough water.
Some people can not hydrate on chlorinated water because of allergic reactions. Chlorine is a dangerous chemical. It was used in wars to kill people. The last time it was used as a weapon of mass destruction was during the reign of Saddam Hussein. More than 5000 people were killed by it. You also have a spinal misalignment in the upper part of your neck, where the neck joins the skull. Some of the muscles in that area are too tight, in particular, a muscle called obliquus capitis inferior, massaging the base of the skull all around, from ear to ear will show you where the painful area is. Do this regularly.
The upper trapezius muscle runs from the base of the skull along all the neck vertebrae to the outer third of the collarbone and top of the shoulder blade. Dehydration causes that muscle to tighten up and pull the neck vertebrae out of their normal position
Massage the base of the neck (C7) will reset the muscle. Or, better still get your partner to sink her elbows into this area. It will be painfull but beneficial. Drink lots of clean filtered water. get a cheap water filter. or leave a waterfilled container out in the sun for a while. The chlorine will dissipate as gas, after which the water is ok to drink.
Make sure to drink water right through the day. The more stress, the water you need.

Kinetico

Hi Kinetico,

This is a interesting way of looking at what is wrong with me. I will give the clean water a try. Do you really think this could make a person feel space out and tired all the time?

Thanks,
Peter Guest

Hi there Peter

It happens all the time!
80% of the people we see in our healing center is dehydrated. Some come in swinging liitle water bottles, of which they take an occasional sip, but what most of us need is at least a couple of liters a day, more as our stress levels go up. people tend to drink coffee (a diuretic) tea (Diuretic) Soft drink (Diuretic) Cola's(diuretics) beer (diuretic) and rarely think of drinking what we are supposed to be drinking. WATER! Most of the people I see with back problems have back problems because they are dehydrated. As I mentioned before, often people have troubles hydrating because of a chlorine allergy. The body can not utilise anything it is allergic to and lots of people are allergic to chlorine.
In one European country that I know of warnings were printed in newspapers telling people to take short showers in well ventilated areas, after some were found unconscious in the shower or bath. Overcome by chlorine gas
Give it a try!

kinetico

Hi peterg012,

I've been stuck with the exact same thing for the past year.
I'm sure it probably gradually crept up on me but one day it hit me really hard and landed me in the ER. I felt totally disconnected from reality, had major problems concentrating, couldnt carry a conversation.

Here are my symptoms:

- Feeling disconnected from reality, talking with someone and feeling like you're not there, spaced out, day dreaming/disconnected.. though to explain, if you have it you know what I'm talking about.
- Feeling un-well, cant quite put my finger on that one.
- Always exhausted.
- Feeling surreal.
- Feel like I'm loosing my mind.
- Felling like there's pressure in my head, a buzzing sensation sometimes.
- Feel like I'm going to pass out at times. Never did but that's the feeling.
- Problems concentrating, I have to re read the same line 2, 3 times so it registers kind of deal.
- Nausea
- Add pretty much your entire list of symptoms.

So far I've had complete blood work done twice, everything came back negative.
Seen a Neurologist and had a cat scan, she said there's nothing physically wrong with my brain.
Seen a Ent. Ear/Throat specialist in case of Labyrinthitis.. everything checked out fine.
Seen a Endocrinoligyst, thyroid, hormones, all good.
Seen about 3 Generalists, they have no idea.
That was last year, took a break to re-group.
Last month I went to a Naturopath (running out of ideas), she suggested I cut all stimulants like cafeine, alcohol,also went off dairy and weat and asparthame.
Her theory was something called Adrenal fatigue, we're always stimulating our system and after a

while it's less efficient at keeping our energy levels up..
Cutting the cafeine did wonders for sleeping but other than that, absolutely no improvement.
She also suggested I take anti Candidat supplements. No improvements

We have water purifier in the house and only drink out of that or bottled water, I drink about 1.5L to 2.0L per day without counting other types of drinks, no improvements.

I'm 34 and workout about 3 to 4 times a week, physically I'm in excellent shape.

I have an appointment with another generalist this Thursday, I'm going to ask him to give me a B12 injection and I might also try anti depressants..

How can this be so difficult to diagnose, I've seen tons of posts in numerous forums about the exact same condition as ours yet no one seem to be able to put a diagnostic on it.

I'll keep pushing doctors for a diagnosis.

Suggestions and ideas on what could be wrong would be greatly appreciated.
I'll keep you guys posted.

Thanks and gl!

K.

im 17 and what you have described is exactly how i feel, it's awful, yet when you go to the dovtors they look at you like your making it all up, it's anooying me i want a cure

Hi Kreegrr and Benjamingoody,

Very weird that we are all having the same type of symptons and can't find a solution.

Maybe we should look for some common similarities between us - for all we know we could be on "medical detectives"! LOL

I am still playing with the idea that I had a panic attack and are now kinda stuck "mentally" in that state or just got really scared and it is my minds way of protecting me.

I am starting to lose faith in some doctors - then tend to jump to the first possible diagnosis rather than looking at the big picture. Maybe we have the beginning stages of Schizophrenia....I hope not!

How you all doing now?
Peter

a couple years ago i started getting panic attacks havnt had them recently but i feel like i am not really here that im just watching everyone else i dont even realize sometimes that people can see me. i space out really bad as if my life is a dream or tv screen. i feel so disconnected that i try and visualize the worst things that could happen to me just so i can feel a little emotion and i still feel numb. when i do feel emotions its overwhelming anger. i dont feel right. i think there is something wrong with me.

I get the disconnected-from-reality feeling. Sometimes I'll be sitting there at dinner, and suddenly I'll feel like my body is upside down and I'm hanging from the ceiling. Sometimes I begin to feel so disconnected from reality that I think I'm going to pass out, but I never do.

I also get weird sensations all over my body, my chest will hurt or my leg will feel like it's detached, I'll get pains and jabs and other weird sensations in my head.

I gave up on doctors because they could never find anything wrong, so I just put all these events down to anxiety or a panic disorder. If you know you're having a panic attack, you know you can deal with it and it will be alright, but the trouble with panic attacks is they come in many different shapes and sizes, and sometimes it's impossible to tell if the symptoms you have are a panic attack in a new disguise, or a physical problem.

this is weird it sounds like u guys all have the same symptoms as me iv been sitting in my apartment day after day being terrified of having cancer or something, pretty much too scared to go to a doctor. weird feelings like a weird disconnected feeling in my face and hands, not like a numbness o weakness but just a strange sensation of being disconnected. it seems like its not so bad when i first wake up in the morning but i dont know. like the other day i was talking to people and holding a glass of water and several times i thought i was going to slurr my speach or become disconnected from my mouth for a split second. i was scared they would all freak out lol. anyway i have suffered from a few panic attacks when i was younger always had problems getting along with my parents. anyone get any kind of an idea out of their doctors on these symptoms PLZ PUT THEM UP HERE im very interested in wut u have to say.

Wow I am glad to have found a forum where people are describing the same symptoms. I am 20 years old, and have just returned from living in europe for 6 months. About two months after i returned i noticed that one week i started to feel a bit dazed out. But i mean i just figured i was tired etc. But then one day i just could not snap out of it. And it has been two months of this. Feel disconnected from reality.
- Feeling like I am dying of something.
- Constant worry that I going to go mad one day.
- Feel like losing mind.
- Constantly tired.
-developed anxiety
I mean somedays are better than others. But recently it has gotten a bit worse... more dazed. I mean sometimes i dont even know how i go about my normal day. I just do it.
I never had anxiety before, but now i do. I get anxiety when around big groups of people, to go on planes or even now i was doing exams and i had a anxiety attack.
I dont want to see a doc unless extremly necessary. I have been doing positiving thinking instead, and started excersing.
Feeling totally offbalance. Any suggestions? Would going to a doc do any good..or will they just subscribe me pills to deal with it. (which i do not want to do)

It's good to finally know that i'm not the only one who feels this sense of being "disconnected" from the world... i mean, its a horrible feeling, but it does bring some sense of comfort knowing that i'm not experiencing something completely out of the ordinary. i'm 23 years old and have been feeling this way for a little more than two years now. i do have OCD and anxiety problems, but could never connect the feeling i have to being overwhelmed. it's just how my perception has changed into. I feel like im not physically living life. I'm just on auto pilot. I'm not sure if its from being on meds for many years or what, but it has definitely made me feel like im missing out on life itself. Not only that, but i constantly feel lightheaded. I went to the doctor about it. He took my blood pressure, did bloodwork - nothing was wrong. He said i was fine. I'm not hypoglycemic or anything. I went to my psychologist to find out why i felt this way, and she said it's a form of depression. In some aspects i could see why points of my life this would make sense, but for a while now i've been far from depressed. I've been happy. Yet i still feel disconnected with what is going on around me. ESPECIALLY when im outside. While inside my house i'm pretty much fine. Its very strange. Maybe i need to get out of my house more? I do work from home and i am on the computer most of the day. Could this have anything to do with it? Just as we are all looking for answers, I will keep everyone and anyone up to date if i ever find out what exactly causes these feelings, because personally i think it's pretty pathetic that no doctor can tell us why we feel this way. Help =\

I'm 24 years old now, and I have been experiencing the same symptoms as above for about 2 years now, maybe longer. It's really "good" to know that other people feel the exact same way as I do, although I wish none of us had to feel this way. It's really a weird thing to go through, and I think the "disconnection" part is the hardest thing to explain.

As for myself, I had a head injury about 3 years ago in which I went through intense emotional anxiety for a period of 12 hours (basically coughing up blood and thinking I was going to die or go paralyzed -- long story). Anyway, that eventually led me to completely drop out of college after completing 3 1/2 years of 4.0 grades. One year later I'm signing up for the Navy. Now I'm one year into the Navy and the whole disconnection from reality seems to have only gotten worse.

On one hand I'm getting used to the anxiety and learning how to handle stress. But is it really a good thing to get used to these things? It doesn't necessarily mean they are going away. And I feel like there's an infinite distance between my past life (where I was happy) and now -- as if before a few years ago was only a dream.

3 years ago:
Fun loving, studious, outgoing, happy, KID

Now:
Not one friend, no interest in making any, no interest in tomorrow, no passion

It's like it doesn't matter to me that I'm here...and I don't really feel "here" most of the time anyway. Sometimes I feel like I'm just here waiting...watching...hoping for SOMETHING to happen that snaps me out of this. Something to remind me that I'm still alive and something to remind me that it still matters that I AM alive...

Anybody know what I mean?

Hello everybody, glad I found this forum. I have the same symptoms as all of you. Just this bizarre feeling of disconnection, as if you feel like your body and mind are separated....as if you are staring out through your eyes and seeing everything happening but not making any sense of it....like you are a being within your mind and trapped inside your head. ANYWAYS, I am almost certain that these are symptoms of General Anxiety Disorder. And with this, there is a close relationship with Panic Disorder. For me, they go hand in hand. I have been taking Lexapro for the past 6 weeks ago or so and it has helped dramatically. I suggest you all talk to your doctors about this medication, which is good for treating either anxiety or depression or both simultaneously. Additionally, for my panic disorder i take Ativan. It works wonders for panic attacks. For those of you trying to not take medication and just help yourselves spiritually or mentally, i would say give Lexapro a shot. The reason for anxiety and depression disorders is a chemical imbalance in your brain. And just trying on your own is not going to improve that.
Lexapro is a part of the drug class known as SSRI's....which stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. Let me explain. There are millions of nerves in your brain and the drug serotonin helps to regulate feelings of happiness and mood stability. The way this natural chemical moves through out your brain is by jumping from nerve to nerve. Now the serotonin must "jump" between the synapses of each nerve ending. Once serotonin leaves the nerve ending, in a "normal person", a portion of the serotonin will jump to the next nerve ending while the remaining portion is sucked back up into the original nerve ending. This "sucking back up" is known as "reuptake". In people who have anxiety and depression problems, the original nerve endings suck up too much of the serotonin and not enough of it passes on to the next nerve ending, so there is too much reuptake. SSRI's help to prevent the reuptake process in people with too much anxiety and depression so that more of the serotonin can move through brain nerves and create more chemical balance within the brain.

I am so glad I found this post as most of you have said the same. I am 44 years old and have always been so outgoing and the "life of the party" kind of guy. I have lost interest in things of that nature and just kind of go day to day with all these symptoms you people are speaking of. I have a n 8 year old daughter who I finally got full custody about a year ago or so. I think this might have something to do with it, not that I can;t habdle my duaghter, but just that she has been through so much already in her life and I get "panicked" all the time about her. I stress and get high anxeiety trying to make sure she has a good life. I think I might have forgot who I was was trying to prevent this and have somehow regulated myself to the robot I am today. Thanks to everyone here for posting their concerns. It does feel good to know there are more than just me out there living in the surreal world. Not that I wish this on any of us. Also, I have been to the doctor e times. Xrays, catdcans, blood work, and the such. Nothing is wrong with me. Yeah Right! Anyway. I am going to print off and take these testimonial to my doctor and see if maybe the Lexapro thing might be what I need. I HAVE to be here for my baby girl. Thanks again everyone.

Jimmy, Laurel, MS

nothing is physically wrong with you guys. its not the water or anything else physical. i work in a psych ward and have anxiety myself. its anxiety simply put. Seriously thats all it is. you had you first anxiety break which is almost always triggered with a panic attack. my advice would to be stop going to medical doctors because youre just trying to figure yourself out which is a form of anxiety. looks like you got youself an anxiety disorder or just real anxious. go to a psychiatrist and get on some anxiety meds. it may take a while for them to work but they will, promise. therapy helps too.

Got to say that interesting as it is to find so many people with similar symptoms this page is actually HIGHLY unhelpful as it gives no real advise on whats wrong or how to fix it.

All this page does is make me feel like lots more people are continuing to suffer without any answers which is of little comfort to myself

I have tried telling myself in my head constantly for a week "I'm okay" "calm" It seems to hel because your brain is on hyperactive mode so by telling it over and over again that you're okay it starts to calm down a little bit. I plan on saying it to myself for as long as it takes. Try it. It might work for you too.

did some research, it's called depersonalization/derealization. so for all turns up no known cure....... bad news for us.

I disagree that there is no hope. It helps to fully understand what is happening in the brain.