Fatness inherited ? (Page 1)

Hi Nuran,

No Nuran, all fatness is not inherited. The first step in losing weight is to be serious about it. It seems you are. The comment about suicidal thoughts...just remember suicide is a permant solution to a temporialy problem.

Now, lets get you healthy and happy. First, increase your engery output. The way you do that is to walk, swim, cardio, something you like for 45 to 60 minutes a day, 6 days a week. Stop drinking sugary drinks such as kool-aide, sodas,(to include diet sodas), no candy, cookies, potato chips, unless they are baked, Not fried. No fried foods. Read the label on Everything you eat. If it contains more than 10% sugar leave it alone. If it contains alot of sodium,(salt) leave it. If it contains artifical sweetner, leave it. Beware of the hidden traps...words like futcose, alcohol sugar, saturated fat etc... these are only empty calories and are unheathy. Start a journal and write down everything you eat yes Everything, even a stick of gum. If a product says sugar free, It has sugar, Read the Label.

On the very front cover of your journal, I want you to write these words in Big Bold Print, "THIS IS MY LIFE AND I'M TAKING IT BACK." On the first page of the journal write this, " The Longest Journey Begin with the First Step." Write down how much you currently weigh then put away the scale. You won't need it again until you have lost 3 dress sizes...yes 30 pounds. You will know when your clothes began to need a safety pin to hold them up....no scale is needed to tell you that.

Drink lots of water, (not the flavored water), it has calories even if it says it doesn't. If you like put a few drops of lemon juice in plain water, lemon is a appitite suppressant. Eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables. Eat baked, broiled or boiled chicken, fish, turkey or lamb NO pork. Snack as often as you like but only fruits, nuts vegetables, tuna fish, w/o the mayo. Toss out any and all sugar foods. Only naturally sweeten food and snacks like rasins, prunes, apples, oranges, etc.

Once you have lost the first 10 pounds your engery and self-confident will soar. Don't worry if you eat something you shouldn't just write it in your journal and stay with it. If you would like me to help see you through this jouney, write me and I will be happy to. Just click on the red rose of my profile and click on my contact info.

Good Luck,

Faded Rose

No, it isn't inherited, however, if you are raised with a family that is overweight, chances are that you will be fed starchy and fattening foods from the start...This may be their main bread and butter and staple in life...Vegetables and good healthy foods would probably not be their food of choice...You must learn to eat healthy and change the pattern that you have learned from youth on...It can be done...It is just programing yourself....I have always felt that "nothing tastes as good as being thin"....

Take care,

Caroline

I hate to break it to those who responded, but fatness (obesity) is HIGHLY inherited.

"Polymorphisms in various genes controlling appetite and metabolism predispose to obesity when sufficient calories are present. The percentage of obesity that can be attributed to genetics varies depending on the population examined from 6% to 85%. Some studies have focused upon inheritance patterns without focusing upon specific genes. One study found that 80% of the offspring of two obese parents were obese, in contrast to less than 10% of the offspring of two parents who were of normal weight."

Focus on being healthy, not necessarily the number on the scale. It sounds like you are very unhappy--losing weight will not make the unhappiness go away. Work on your relationships with your friends and family, and exercise for fun and health. If obesity runs in your family, you may never be thin, but you can always be healthy and happy.

Yes health issues that complicate weight are absolutely genetic traits. We knew this even before it was confirmed by the science of genetics. Its not even debatable at this point in our understanding of basic human biology. Metabolism, digestive disorders, appetite and taste for fats or sugars are ALL inherited traits. Your choice of foods, exercise and diet are all learned behaviors, most from childhood. Everyone who engages in responsible diet and exercise reduces weight and improves health regardless of their genetics.

No! My whole family is over weight and the only way i lost down to a size 32 from 54 is buy following the Svelte Gourmet cookbook and blog and learning what i should be eating to make my body healty! It worked for me... So the answer to this would be no. You inherited eating habits is all!

Tibonar
If you genetics play no role in your weight then why are you eating food from a low-cal cookbook while there are girls half your weight who live off cheeseburgers and french fries?

your possibly talking about teenagers that are growing? Its a calorie in and calorie out thing. 3500 calories make a pound. So if they eat the Hardees Mushroom and swiss burger for 450 calories 3 times a day they will loose weight.if they arent taking anything else in..
Their heart clogging up is thier biggest problem..
The French eat very rich fatty foods but they don't eat much of it therefore keeping the calories low and the weight under control.

Take the Atkins diet for example.. That diet has people eating so much junk that the body doesn't do anything but dump it. Maybe the fast food diet is along those same lines.

Anyone that doesn't eat low calorie and likes to eat as much as i do will gain weight. It just a fact of life..

Check out the post on the Svelte Gourmets blog titled Skinny Genes =) It's a post about just this!
Im not trying to be a know it all but i'm sure all the contestants on the Biggest looser think they got it from their parents too! They are smaller than me now!

Tibonar
Don't want to shock you but not everyone in the world is on a diet. And a lot of them that are gain weight following the same routine that others lose weight with. If your metabolism supports high calorie consumption, if your body doesn't process fatty foods effectively then you can eat monstrously fattening foods without gaining weight. In fact most of the people I know who are half my size consume my caloric intake or more. We do not all operate the same and those differences are absolutely in us from birth. You absolutely need to adopt a strategy of diet and exercise that works for you as an individual.

it is almost impossible to try and compare yourself to anyone just by what they eat. Some people get way more excercise than others. Some people walk up stairs to go to bed at night. You would have to live the same lifestyle and follow them around all day to determine if your body burns less. I assume that there could be an illness that makes the body treat food differently..



Maybe you should ask yourself how active these high calorie eater are that your speak of? I assume they aren't sitting around ...

I'm not on a diet either i just changed my lifestyle.. diet don't work......This is a weight loss forum so i guess talking about a diet here is wrong eh ?


It is obvious that your determined to believe some people are just born to be fat but i have found that this is not the case! If you have found differntly then I'm sorry that it working out that way for you. =(

My co-worker and I eat the same food with very few exceptions because we take our meals together 5 days a week. However she is small. I consume a 4-1 caloric intake (4 calories a day per lb of bodymass) she eats about a 12-1 intake. We both have very similar lifestyles, sedentary jobs, sedentary hobbies. I do about 3 hours of cardio a week, she plays DDR about twice a month. Our weight fluctuates but we're not loosing or gaining despite the gratuitous differences in diet an exercise. Why? Because her metabolism is a feature of her genetics. She can operate at higher energy levels just laying on the couch with a joystick than I can running on an incliner. I wouldn't trade places with her for anything. Her genetics have dealt her cards I couldn't cope with. But she, just like every other person on the planet is very different than I am. The only way a diet will function for me is if it functions for me. It doesn't matter how many people lose weight doing it if I don't.

Assuming that people who are overweight are just lazy or lack the will to diet is remarkably ignorant of the differences between human beings. Everyone loses weight by restricting intake and increasing activity, nobody loses the same weight from the same degree or ratio.

I agree that you are right on peoples bodies reacting differently.
I would say she is a hyperthyroid example. I'm no doctor but it is pretty classic.

You on the other hand could be Hypo? I'm not saying that there are no exceptions to the rule.

I have been in a battle with weight my whole life and if there is one thing that i have learned is a good healthful diet and 30 mins a day cardio excercise is the answer.

For the most part the people I know that are overweight eat too much and don't get much excercise.

Do you watch the biggest looser ? great show for motivating me. They burn 6500 calories a day in the gym =/

Id put 10k on it that it would work for you too!

I believe Shay said about the same thing as you did. She could not loose weight eating like her friends... They showed her differently.

hehe thats what i call motivated!


You could be the exception to the rule...

I don't watch reality TV. I can't afford that kind of ass-time given my lifestyle. I'm not sure why you figure that there's any gamble int he idea that burning twice as many calories as you consume wouldn't make you loose fat freakishly fast but needless to say I'd bet you 10M that you'd loose weight if you consume 2000 calories a day and burn only 2100. It's just math. The problem is that a 6500 cal workout for you isn't the same burn for me and probably double again that much for my 4 foot tall co-worker. Diet and exercise has to be individualized because we are individuals.

The fact that there's an exception does sort of point out that there's a rule doesn't it? I'm glad you found something that works for you but as we've both said time and again, what works for some does not for all. Fatness is absolutely a genetic trait.

Can we agree to disagree on this then?

There is no way i put that i feel that fat people are fat just becuase they were born that way when i have personally seen 100's of them turn out smaller than me.

That is simply enabling people to give up because they think they are just that way..


Who is to say that your metabolism is in your genes and not some other medical issue ????


I don't think people are just born to be fat as a gene. maybe a medical problem.

You should take the time to watch the show. the people on there start out with the same mind set that you have...

You're totally welcome to disagree with me but if you do you're also disagreeing with known facts about human physiology and genetics. Truth is that we have genetic factors that impact our body type, they govern our propensity to a build that is heavier or lighter. Having a reality TV show give you facts about medicine or even fitness is a bad precident for anyone. More-so it doesn't help you understand what makes you the person you are to expect that if you do what everyone else does that you will have the same results.

Thanks Guys,
i have benefited from the discussions and responses from you. I have just gotten a new job and among my new year resolutions is to change my lifestyle, so let me give it a try. I figured that there are some things that i was doing wrong that i should do right, so Thankyou!!

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They also sell a cookbook that helped me through phase 2. I lost 30 pounds in 40 days and have never felt better. I am as skinny as I was back in college!

I used to think it was genetic, but now I eat right regularly and exercise regularly. And I lost weight and kept it off. Tibonar, I agree with you! I also went and got the Svelte Gourmet cookbook, per your comment above, and I've lost even more weight. Sure, everyone's bodies are different. But you don't have to stay fat.

a Cookbook cannot help everyone loose weight, no matter how many threads you pimp it in at once.