Join Our Community!
Share
Conditions and Diseases > Back Pain Forum > Facet Dominant Mechanical Back Pain
What structures make up the spine? We review basic spine anatomy here...before identifying potential causes of back pain....
Click here to learn about the most common causes of back pain, and things that increase your risk of backache. We cover lower back pain and upper back pain....
Back pain symptoms may seem obvious. But do you know when symptoms of back pain are more serious or when to see a doctor? Learn what action to take & when...
Avatar
Q: Facet Dominant Mechanical Back Pain
asked by: MartianTom on December 31st, 2008
New User
I'm 50 years old. About 5 years ago, I developed a problem that I think was caused by doing karate kicks (I've long since given up karate for that reason). It started as a pain felt on the right-hand back edge of the sacrum bone - the knobbly bit right next to the spinal column. Sometimes, the pain would radiate through to the front - making me, at one stage, think it was appendicitis. The pain - whilst relatively mild and not too discomforting (it feels like the bone is bruised) - has persisted to this day, to a greater or lesser degree. I've tried osteopathy, physiotherapy and chiropractic - all to no avail (in fact, the chiropractor made it temporarily worse). Earlier this year, I had an MRI scan of my lumbar spine. The results are as follows: 'There is minimal dehydration in the L1/L2 disc and in the L3/L4 and L4/L5 discs, but there are no disc herniations. The spinal canal is of good calibre throughout. There are no encroachments on the neural exit canals. No suspicious bony abnormality is seen.' My GP assessed the condition as Facet Dominant Mechanical Back Pain and basically said my best bet would be a corticosteroid injection. This is fine - but it doesn't solve the problem... it just alleviates the symptoms; to my mind, this could lead to even further problems. Anyway, just recently I've changed jobs and am now doing work of a much more physically demanding nature - lots of bending, lifting, twisting - and the pain has become much more noticeable. I can manage with it, with painkillers, but I'm wondering if there is anything else I can do to deal with the problem. I'm careful with my lifting - bending my knees as much as possible - and I'm otherwise very physically fit: I jog (I use good shoes) and cycle, though I've given up swimming because that aggravates the pain. Doing things like kicking a football also makes it worse. Also, I've noticed in the last few weeks that I have limited movements with my right arm and my left leg. If I lift the arm up and back, I get a pain in my shoulder before I've reached the usual limits of movement. The same with the left leg: if I'm doing, say, groin stretches, I get pain before I reach the normal limit of lateral movement. I'm convinced these things are all connected to the same problem. Does anyone have any suggestions for exercises/therapies, please?
Did you find this post useful?
|
Replies(6)
Avatar
littleonefb
replied on December 31st, 2008
Extremely eHealthy
I'm not surprised that a chiropractor made your symptoms and pain worse. I've heard that story far to many times.

What you need to do is have your spine properly evaluated by a spine specialist not your GP.
A GP is not qualified to make any diagnosis or determination of what is wrong with your spine.

The reading of your MRI is just that, a reading and opinion from 1 radiologist that is trained to read MRI pics.
Many times, if you take those pics to several other radiologists to read the pics, you will get a different opinion on the pics.

Same thing can happen with a spine specialist as well.

Be that as it may, an MRI is just a small tool used by a good spine specialist to evaluate and diagnose your spine problems.

Just because you have minimal disc dehydration in your spine does not mean it is not causing you pain. It may be nothing to one person and something very different to another. Remember, we are all individuals and we all respond differently to various things that change in our bodies.

A good spine specialist will look at those MRI pics and then attempt to match the pics and the results to the symptoms that the patient has.
If the MRI pics and the patients symptoms and pain can not be matched, then the spine specialist will have further tests done to try and determine what and where the problem is coming from.

What you need to do is see a spine specialist as soon as you can. Either an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in spines only or a neurosurgeon that specializes in spines only.

As for you new job, it doesn't sound like it is going to be a good one for you at this particular time, especially when it is making your spine symptoms worse.

Good luck and keep us posted on your results with a spine surgeon.

Fran
Did you find this post useful?
|
Users who thank littleonefb for this post: MartianTom 
Avatar
MartianTom
replied on December 31st, 2008
New User
Response
Thanks, Fran. I've booked to see a spine specialist - but, to be honest, I may have to take out a mortgage to handle the fees! The initial consultation/assessment is £150! I'm going to see an osteopath first, though, to see if this leg/arm movement constriction can be sorted out. Thanks again. Happy New Year.
Did you find this post useful?
|
Avatar
littleonefb
replied on December 31st, 2008
Extremely eHealthy
I don't know much about osteopaths or if it is worth trying.

The arm problem could be a cervical spine issue. problem's with the cervical spine can show problems in the arm as well as the legs.

If the MRI you had concentrated on the lumbar spine, then there will not be a lot of information on the MRI about the cervical spine.

I wasn't aware that you are not in the US. having to pay for medical care, out of pocket is costly.

Do you have any kind of ins coverage that can help?

Happy new year and good luck

Fran
Did you find this post useful?
|
Avatar
ratter
replied on January 2nd, 2009
Experienced User
Ratter LSI Patient
Hi all, been awhile and Happy New Year. I was on a roof a day or two before New Years and got up and collapsed in pain. Laid on roof for twenty minutes before i was able to crawl backwards face down to the ladder and somehow managed to get off the roof. Went to ER moaning all the way over in pain. This time it was the lower back and not where the LSI surgery was done in 2006. Was in ER 9 hours before being discharged and many pain killer shots. The dianosis was acute muscle and/or ligaments in lumbar. Gotta see HMO Dr tues. Hos. gave me perscription Percoset, 800mg of Motrin and a muscle relaxer. Cannot even tie my shoe or walk normal yet. I almost passed out on the roof and on way to ER but did not. Thank goodness its not a ruptured disk this time. It still hurts but may be improving and the pills help.The ER Dr advised to change jobs as did every Dr I have seen in the past. I can't do anything but lay in bed at the moment. PS FRan...other site dead
Did you find this post useful?
|
Avatar
littleonefb
replied on January 5th, 2009
Extremely eHealthy
Ratter,

I'm so sorry to hear you are in so much pain and having this new problem. You are very lucky that you didn't fall off that roof or pass out on the way to the hospital.

Are you feeling any better today? I hope so.

You say it isn't a disc problem? Did they do an MRI on your lumbar spine? That would be the way to rule in or out a disc problem. Physical exam won't be able to do it.

Sounds like you not only need to see a spine surgeon about your lumbar spine to be sure that an ER doc diagnosed you correctly, (can't always trust an ER doc to be correct with a spinal issue, believe me, been there done that,) but it is now pretty obvious, even to you, that you are going to have to find another line of work.
This was about as close a call as you can get and not to extremely serious damage and injury to yourself.

Good luck and keep us all posted.

I will check out the other thread and post on it. it can be kept going if we continue to post on it.

Fran
Did you find this post useful?
|
Avatar
ratter
replied on January 9th, 2009
Experienced User
Ratter
Update.....FINALLY found a place that will accept my HMO and am scheduled for MRI next weds Jan 14th. It was a battle to locate a place and get approval. I stopped taking the Percoset pills and after walking around for about 1/2 hour the back gets bad pain in lumbar. This keeps happening so I started the Percoset pills again. To me, it feels like a ligament or muscle acute sprain but the MRI will tell the tale. I am NOT going through another operation again if thats the case. If its a damages disk then I am going to try to collect SS again. If not and just a sprain, then I will try to work again in the spring against all Drs advice.(gotta make a living). I truly hope this will heal on its own as I do enjoy my work....when not hurting. I'm tired of hurting all the time. Left hand numb and still locks up...now twitches once in awhile, left arm weak, and now lumbar aches bigtime.My dad passed away a few days ago at 85 too.
Did you find this post useful?
|
Quick Reply
Search