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lisa1978
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external cervix dilating, blood loss and pain
Posted: 05-21-08 13:50pm
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I am 17 weeks pregnant with my third
child. I have been in a lot of pain for
over a week, with contraction like pains
and when I was examined in hospital I was
told I was slightl dilated on the external
cervix. I was sent home and told there
was a 50 50 chance the pregnancy would end
soon.
Well I am still in pain and still bleeding
with clots and when I examined myself
earlier I could fit two fingers inside my
cervix. I was really shocked as I have
never had a vaginal birth ro been in
labout before as I had two planned c
sectins with my girls.
Is this bad? Should I be this dilated and
being left to cope alone? I am so scared
about the baby being born at home whilst I
am alone. I am sure a 17 week gestation
baby will be hard to see.
Can I start to close again at this point?
Please please help and advice me.
Lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 13:54pm
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Why haven't you had a follow up with your
OB? Who told you there was a 50/50 chance
your pregnancy would end? Based on what?
A 17 week baby will not be hard to see,
you'll have to push it out. If you are
bleeding, get OFF THE COMPUTER and get the
the ER!
Additionally, stop sticking anything into
your cervix.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 13:59pm
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I have had one follow up appointment where
they did bloods and a scan and said baby
was alive but no physical change from me.
The hospital knows I have been bleeding
for 8 days (changing pad every three
hours) but they have just said the
'foetus' isnt viable at this stage that
there would be nothing more they could do.
I asked about a cervial stitch but they
said they couldnt whilst I was bleeding
and there were no drugs at this stage that
would help. I feel very alone and very
scared. My husband has been great and I
am resting lots, but how much longer can
this go on?
Should I be able to fit fingers inside a
cervix that should be closed? I knwo I
should be having a feel myself, but nobody
else seems to be looking ...
I am in the UK so I am not sure if things
may be different where you are?
Lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:07pm
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You should keep your fingers out of your
cervix, that cannot be helping anything!
In fact, it could give you an infection
and cause dilation to increase.
No explaination as to why you are
dilating? No reason why you are bleeding?
You just are?
I'll tell you this, if you were dilating
and bleeding in the states, you would not
have been sent home from the hospital.
When did they say you should come back? At
what point do you get treatment? Are you
on strict bedrest?
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:12pm
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The NHS in Britain is terrible, their
attitude sucks and they just want you to
leave to free up a bed.
No reason was given as to why I am
bleeding or why i am dilating slightly,
they barely gave me painkillers for the
pain. I really am so sore. I have been
given no firther follow up appointments as
of yet, I am not sure if it i because they
think I will lose the baby? As for
bedrest, they told me to rest but no
bedrest as it would increase my chance of
blood clots ...
I have never been on a forum like this,
but this is how desparate for information
I am. I feel very scared and alone and
dont knwo what I will do if the baby
starts to come - call an ambulance I guess
and hope it will be here in time.
Thank you so much much for talking with
me, it is so good to have someone to
listen
lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:15pm
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You should go back to the hospital.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:27pm
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A&E dont deal wit pregnancy and the
maternity ward told me not to go back
unless the bleeding got far worse ... I
think they would just send me out again.
They discharged me last thursday night in
this condition. This is why i feel all
over the place and wanted to seek some
medical facts about how bad all this may
be or is it all ok and i am being a baby
and should just wait things out?
Lis
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:30pm
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Tell them the bleeding IS worse. I would
personally park myself in the hospital
until they gave me some answers.
There are plenty of girls here from the
UK, maybe one of them will come along and
be of more help.
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:31pm
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This is NOT normal.
You should not be going through a pad
every 3 hours for the last 8 days!!!
Go to the hospital and DEMAND to be
treated. Don't leave until you have some
answers!!!
Go to every hospital around if you have
to.
I would if it were my baby.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:31pm
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You have been of help and I am grateful,
thank you.
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:33pm
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I'm curious if that hospital is setting
itself up for a lawsuit by refusing to
treat a patient who obviously needs help?
Call an ambulance. Have them bring you to
the hospital. If they try to make you
leave, start demanding medical treatment
or else you're contacting an ATTORNEY. You
have a right to treatment! It is not
normal nor healthy to bleed and dilate
this early in pregnancy, and their refusal
to either take you seriously or attempt to
treat you in any way is nothing short of
negligence, if not malpractice.
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:34pm
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Does your hospital have an early
pregnancy/foetal assessment unit?
Go back to hospital & demand to be
kept in there. It's where you need to be
in this condition.. I don't care how
rubbish the NHS is. If they tell you to go
home, go to a different hospital.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:41pm
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I seem to be in a blurred area because
they put me on a gynae ward who are meant
to deal with early pregnancy problems (up
to 12 weeks) and when I said I was 16
weeks (this was last week) they said
maternity wouldnt take me until 22 weeks
... I dont get it!
Everyone keeps telling me to wait and see
what happens but I am just not good at
waiting, especially when I am in pain and
this baby means the world to us.
Thanks for your responses
Lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:47pm
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If you're dilating at 17 weeks, that's not
something you wait out. Don't let anyone
try to convince you otherwise.
You need medical treatment. You don't need
it tomorrow or next week, you need it
RIGHT NOW. You needed it last week when
they turned you away.
I'm surprised you're still here. Please
close the window and call an ambulance.
Unless they threaten to remove you by
bodily force, DO NOT LEAVE until you're
seen! And I would strongly suggest having
your husband contact an attorney while
you're waiting to be seen. You won't have
time to do this yourself, since you'll be
either in the ambulance or at the
hospital.
Stand up, walk away from the computer, and
call your local emergency services. 911 or
whatever you have over in the UK. Don't
wait another 10 minutes. Do it now.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:51pm
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I guess I am suprised by all of your
reactions to this, they have made me feel
like I have no options and need to stay at
home. I dont feel like I need to call an
ambulance, but agree I do need treatment
and not to be left alone in pain. The
Americas system seems so much better. I
am laying in bed on a laptop by the way, I
am not up and about.
Thanks for your advice, I am going to ring
my midwife now and try and push for more
answers / appointments.
lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:53pm
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Appointments take time sweetie. This is a
time bomb ticking away. Do you really want
to risk your baby's life and possibly
yours because you "don't feel you need an
ambulance?"
Get UP and GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Posted: 05-21-08 14:58pm
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Do what you feel you must. You've heard
our advice, and it's your choice whether
to follow it or not.
Good luck.
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Posted: 05-21-08 15:04pm
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| lisa1978
wrote: | I guess I am suprised by all
of your reactions to this, they have made
me feel like I have no options and need to
stay at home. I dont feel like I need to
call an ambulance, but agree I do need
treatment and not to be left alone in
pain. The Americas system seems so much
better. I am laying in bed on a laptop by
the way, I am not up and about.
Thanks for your advice, I am going to ring
my midwife now and try and push for more
answers / appointments.
lisa |
If a google search led you hear, a google
search would tell you that bleeding for a
week and dilating when you are 17 weeks
pregnant are not good situations to be in.
They REQUIRE medical care.
I am honestly amazed that no one bothered
to say why you are bleeding. There was
just no answer to it? No placenta previa?
No abruption? Just dilating and bleeding
with pain? Sounds like a diagnosis they'd
give at 7 weeks pregnant, not 17 weeks.
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lisa1978
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Posted: 05-21-08 15:14pm
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Hi guys, thanks again for all of your
advice. My husband has spoken to midwife
and she is phoning the antinatal ward to
see if they will see me...
A scan showed no placental problems,
placenta is posterior and not particularly
low and wa well attached to wall. They
did say bleeding was coming from cervix.
I am not sure if they are being nice not
keeping me there as they said hospitals
are full of infection and it would not
benefit me or baby to be there ... They
said there is no medication that could
stop labout at this stage and a cervical
stitch which would help could not be done
until bleeding stops ...
I am so grateful to you all for listening
and I hae taken on board how ad you think
this is. I guess i am in denial a
little.
I will stay in bed until the midwife
phones back with more information.
Thanks, lisa
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Posted: 05-21-08 15:22pm
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Quite to the contrary, the hospital would
be the BEST place to be in this
situation.
That way, if something serious happened
suddenly, you could get help right away
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