Endometrium thickness, abdominal pain, loss of appetite

Did you ever have a CA125 blood test? It is not conclusive but it might give an indication if the levels are really high. Is there any cancer in your family? I hope you are feeling better these days. Good luck.

Im not really sure what the thickness should be but I am 41 have always has normal paps untill 3yrs ago I had my tubes tied after the birth of my 3rd child (almost 17 yrs ago) I felt 3 is enough lol I was diagnosed w/ hpv 3yrs ago w/ neg-pos-neg results I was told the neg results were because the hpv was dormant at the time...ok cervix is still testing fine thank the lord but since March 26 th (appt. w/ new gyno) its been a emotional roller coaster pap showed endo cells in the smear ultrasound showed uterine thickness w/ endo not sloughing off after period had uterine biopsy last week (2 actually dr went back for seconds lol) this week was told not cancer (thank you lord) and that my options are d&c d&c w/novasure and 1 other1 for the life of me I cant remember what it was....needless to say Ive scheduled a consult w/ the dr and in the meantime I am doin my homework (bless the internet a wealth of info here) It seems that w/ all the horror stories I have read from women about the novasure I dont think Ill be choosing that 1 for all the women It has been a god send for bless you but I am notoriously unlucky I would be the #5 outta the 4 outta 5 women it helps...If my life isnt is danger (when I was waiting for the word do I have cancer or not I was ready to say take my uterus give me my life) and the thickening of the uterus doesnt seem to be that big of a deal at least not yet Y do I have to do anything? My periods are heavy first 3 days cramping and clotting but then lighten up and im done in 5-7 days every 28 days or so I can live w/ that managable and predictable Y do I want to go mucking around in there and possibly making things worse? If I have to do anything I think It will be a d&c kind of archaic by the medical standards of today the procedure hasnt change for yrs its one of those tried and trues i guess. The novasure touts alot of pluses and if it sounds to good to be true my mom always said alot of stories I have read about it (the bad ones anyways) has a 100% failure for the women that have hopes of making their lives freer from horrendous periods only to have them get even worse and in the end loose their uterus anyway...Do drs go into this w/ the thought in the back of their minds that a hysterectomy is in her future or what? Is there any1 out there w/ a similar story w/ any advice for me??? it seems that if youve had your tubes tied and are in your 30's and 40's or so and we start having issues such as these we are faced w/ a decision that might not help and could even make it worse and in the end drs just want to remove an organ isnt there any other choices out there? what harm is it to do nothing? as long as Im not in danger? Bless all of us strong women who have the right to choose what is best for our own bodies.....I wish every1 well and I thank you all in advance for you thoughts....Joyus =)

I am 35 and have been living with sharp stabbing pains for a year sometimes throughout the month and then also during my period. I had a internal and external ultrasound which came back with some confussing results. I was diagonised with a complex cyst on my left ovary 1.7 cm and a 15mm cyst normal cyst on right ovary. They state my endometruim is 9mm in thickness. I saw a new gyno because the other doctors weren't helping me and she says I need to have a D&C and laproscopy. She told me if I want she will also do the novasure procedure. I got a second opinion from my aunt who is a gyno and she actually read the films which the other dr. just goes by the report. She told me not to have the ablation if I have polyps in which she believes I do. She said the D&C will take care of the polyps but if you have the ablation it causes scar tissue which may hide new polyps growing and then the next step would have to be a hysterectomy if the polyps are not seen. She did not seem concerned of the thickness of the endometrium so I think I should leave well enough alone. I am unsure at what point should you be concerned of the thickness of the endometrium? What are the complications of an enlarged endometrium? Endometreoasis is another problem I may have and a dialated follopian tube. I will be having the D&C and Laproscopy on Tuesday where I will then find out my next steps to take if needed.

There are many things that make people ill that is not ovarian and endometrial cancer. my wife's obgyn says that ovarian cancer is really an easy cancer to heal and takes a pretty long time before it can turn bad. As long as you see your obgyn at every 6 to 12 months you should be fine even if the found something it is usually a success because it's at beginning stages.....easy to cure.

And another thing, if your your obgyn performs a normal check up routine on you, he should most definitely be able to tell is you have ovarian cancer, especially with those symtpoms. I ain't no doctor but perhaps it is something else...Although symptoms are a sign to your body that something is going on so DON"T PUT IT OFF AND GET PLENTY OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS...and it really might not be anything bad but don't stop until you find out whats going on....

I'm very grateful for all you other women who are going through uterine issues. I'm scheduled for a d&c, the lining removed will be biopsied, my dr. will take a look around in there with a camera and I will ask for pictures. My lining is also thicker than dr. says it should be, however, I'm overweight and working on that.
Prayers appreciated for good results! I've had benign uterine hyperplasia past two endometrial biopsies.
Anyone else with a similar health issues feel free to write! thanks.

I am really scared! I have had abnormal bleeding all my life, wel after my daughter almost 4 years ago I had a uterine ablation, and now I have some weird blood after sex, it looks brown sometimes pink, not alot of it, but it comes out for a few days, and I was having severe pain in my upper left quadren of my belly. In the mornings when I pee my stomach gives bad fits and it hurts so much, I had my dr do a CT and they found what they thought was a amniotic or gestational sac, no baby..And they did an ultrasound, (internal) and seen it too. Im really scared I have uterine cancer.

we all bow down to the almighty UTURUS....I have gasping and panting as I read these storys. First. if your OBGYN is a male dr get a second opinion. I find that men jus don't get it and some female dr's don't get it either. I have suffered with horrific painful period all of my life. My HMO refused to give me a hysterectomy but instead gave me daily Oxycontin for 2 yrs and going thru withdrawel from that drug almost killed me but hey HMO's they will give u pills that will kill or cripple u for like but will ot give u the surgery u need unless u r half dead. i currently take 250 Narco a month for the period and leg and back pain it is living hell and muscle relaxers. And my last OBYGYN wanted 3 clearance lts fr my other drs as a safety measure whta a crock of crap - all about money and liabilty-i just had a lung removed 1 yr ago I think i can handle the dinchi style complete hysterectomy. I told my dr i dont want to go thru another period i dont think i can handle it - she primped in the mirrow looked at me and said hey you have been in this pain for yeasr whats one more month? whihc turned into 2 months and then she pissed me off again so i threatned to call the texas medical board and suddenly the head dr/surgeon was taking my case. I was laso tried to be talked inot the novasure and the other procedure they sometimes do with it..... here is the problem with novasure and the other one i cant remmeber the nam eeither; is u stoppe dthe periods and u stoppe dthe pain b ut YOU STILL HAVE TO USE birth control-what?????? why go theu all that so u can take a pill every day or keep condoms on the nite stand table? stupid! i dont care what the dr says if u have thicking uterus and cysts on ovaries - get the cA!@% blood test even if ur insurance does not cover it - my grandmothr had a hystrectomy and left one ovary in ON THE ADVICE of the MALE dr - to keep those hormones in th ebody naturally - what BS - and until the day she died at age 84 evey month she had severe pain in that ovary tthat a male dr suggested she keep. gte a total so u dont have to constanly go unde rthe knife ir get D%C and etc all those visits and test only make sthe dr richer....... the fatter a owmna the more estrogen your body has. estrogen comes from adipose or fat tisues - your breast is 80% fat tissue - most women can have a complete hysterectomy and if u have a decent size breast the your breast should make plenty of estrogen for you - if u feel irritable cant sleep etc - then go on a low dose estrogen and dont screw around with th estroge n patche sthat sweta off your skin - get a estrogen pill on the 5 dollar list at walmart.. I have been put thru absolue hell with pain since i was 15 yrs old , drs who dont get it becasue all they can relate too is a penis and drs who dont get it becasue they have never walked in our shoes - normal thickness for the uterus is 4 mm- mine came in at 5mm and my very good new dr did a uterun biopsy to be safe and cover all our bases becasue if u have cancer and they rove your parts and u had cancer sells now those cancer cell are spread into your abdomen. also i learne dthis on accident - i had a pelvic by the first dr and afterward felt like a had a UTI i called the dr only to be ignored - then called my PCP (stay with me i am goign somewhere)then i got worst within 2 days - so i went to the ER and i gave the dr pee sample and it was almost all blood - the er dr thought i wa sfaking so made me wait no pain meds then he said omy god u have a lot of blood in your urine and etc then called into sulfa i went home and 3 days later felt like i was goignt o die and of course it was a sunday evening- a smart ass mouthed dr/interne came in and i started explaiing the problem - he looke din the computer and said o mh god u really did have a lot of blood in your urine - duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thenit too morphine and torodol to stopo the worst pain I have ever had.......then he did an IV of Cipro and sent me home with 2 weeks of cipro and more pain medicine which pissed the pharmacist off to no end LOL.....so istarted feeling better and 1 week later had appt with new OBGYN dr - after all the dsicussion she said she wante dto do a uterun boipsy i saidi whatever and i told her i had used 1 tube of yeast creme and 1 diflucane pill and i still feel i have a yeast infection and even with the antibiotic (whihc a cultrey was run) i wa son the right anitbiotic with Macrodantin taken once daily to prevent horrible UTIS that travel uo inothe kidney whhc i have had and ha dthis go around - stomach still very bloated and tender so i aske dthe dr whuile she does the biopsy please run a culture to see if this is yeast infection or something els eand i told her i have not hav sex for 4 yrs cuz their first thought is who is she or how many is she sleeping with........the call came back the next day that the culture that i asked for and should have been done by the dr as important as the biopys - I gad bacterial vaginosis - a vaginal infection - cuased by unk bacteria from body maybe or change of soaps -no sex bacteria so i rule dthat out - was prescribed a special cream t insert for 5 days - here is the kicker - before a woman has a bay and especially before she has pelvic surgery and hysterectomy ALL women should be tested for baterial vaginosis to prevent an abdomen (name is peritotits i think) infection post surgery.If not and the woman is carrying this bacteria then during surgery the bacteria that make me so sick i wa almost hospitalized, would be spread throuout the abdomen - then u would be readmitted cuz now u arnt trying heal from major surgery but ur body is being attacked by adnagerous bacteria. I scartche dmy head and wonder when was she gogin to chk for that..........so my oint is- when the first OBGYN did a pelvic on me and then i called her and said i felt ok until the pelvic and she blew me off - while doing the pelvic she crammed that very bad bacteria way up into my uterus and abdomen...unknowingly.......and had i not randonly aske dthe bew dr to culture for why i still felt like i had a yeast issue....glad I asked.........I would have had surgery and that bacteria would have been spread thruour my abdomen and could have ruined my kidneys - hey it is not the dr who has to sit thru heel i mean dialysis 3 times a week - so see the first dr blew me off as a nuerotic and when she should have said u had the problem afte rthe pelvic well come in and let us do a urine culture and vaginal culture... but no she judged me and blew me off - but I have learned to listen to my body becasei learned a long time ago u must be your oen advocate and try to have a family or friend with u during and after any procedure or surgery- so important. so to my girls if u have novasure and etc be prepared to use birth control if u get pregnant the embryo cannot attach to the uterus becaseu of the ablation and u and baby can die - yeh just a minor things they dont tell you uhmmmm... becasue just like when Oxycontin hit the market... the more novasure or sleep studys or etc the dr does the more money bonuses and special trips/cruises the makers of novasure will give secretly to the dr. why r the pharm reps so sweet to the drs when the leave samples or push the new and latest procedure. the pharm reps sale the drs the drs sale the patients and they get richer and we get scrwed and end up goign back under for a HYESTERECTOMY and suffered more pain becasue we were sold on novasure - ecah dr thet trried to sell me on novasure never not once tld me the dangers if an embryo tries to attach to the uterun wall with has been D&C's so there r no nutrients and no way the embryo could attach to the uetrus if it did it would unattach and cause woman to hemroage to death - not sure why the drs did not talk about that possibility if u dont use birth control.dont buy into u cant have total hysterectomy becasue u need estrogen your boobs will make enough estrogen for u and if not your body will feel off kilter and u will know u need to take a small doseof estrogen daily and it is your friend - keeping ur bones strong and you rbreats full andperky and you skin soft and young looking and the list goes on - estrogne is your friend and also insomnia will go away - insomnia us casued by a hormone imbalance - huge amts of estrogen may cause cancer but we arent saying take a ton of estrogen just a small mat to regulate your body and add to the estrogen your breast are already making for you. i am sorry this was so long but I needed to get my exp out so u can have guidance. July 22 i get a total hysterectomy after tryng for 7 years so for me i am haing triplets i uterus 2 tubs and w tein ovaries LOL0it will be emanicipation day for me yahooooono more pain and fatique- thank you god!

i am sorry i had so many typos i am tired and in pain. so please read thru my typos... I meant to say if u r afraid insist for blood test CA125- i dont know of any ins that pays for it but for peace of mind angel get out the credit card and get the test.some of the symptoms I read on this page were frightening- get a sec and third opinion - i loved it whne the dr told me well i see a cyst on your ovarie and thats common and they come and go and 99% r benighn - remember that speech ladies?????? In my head I am thinking you penis SOB I might be the 1% and its my life you r playing with..........be your own advocate alwasy ask questions...........on july 22 like i said i am having triplets one uturus 2 fall tubes and twin ovaries0 total emaniciapation dad LOL - my family does not drink but after enduring my pain and horrific mood swings (one divorced caused by it)but a blessing disguse.... come on women take control and become fearless and know your body and study online or rent an antatomy book from ur libray or buy a used book at your local college community college - knowledge is power - the dr throws around all these medical words with me and i have laughing my ass off becasue i am a nursing student and i knwo what a culture in ana gur plate means and I know that adipose means fat becasue my antomy teacher who was a chovnistic creep when he would say adipose in lecture he would stare at me - how rude - o well he suddenly died after the semester. so be strong ladies dont be afraid to ask ur dr questions - make a kist of questions! god bless you and here is to happy and pain free days ahead. love

I was just diagnosed with high risk hpv but no cancer cells present. I get headaches every day. I have discharge every day, it is mucousy and heavy. I have irregular periods. I notice brown clotty periods very lillte red blood. I have swollen ovaries. pain in my ovaries, stomach and abdomen, especially my right lower side of my back. I have frequent urination and a strong urge to urinate when I do have to go. There is consistently white blood cells in my urine and and wet preps. I ahve no other stds. I have a throbbing pain in my vulva and inside of my vagina. The inside of my vagina is swollen and the top part is hard. It feels as if I am used my keigal muscle constantly. I am also itchy like i have yeast but I dont. I hav blurry vision also.They say there is no symptoms of HPV, well what I am experiencing? I have been tested and negative for everything else and am negative. Has anyone else had any of these symptoms before with HPV

Make sure you don't have Type 2 Diabetes. The types of symptoms you are describing can occur if you have consistently high blood sugars, such as in the 400-500+ range (normal is 80-120). The frequent urination with urgency, along with feeling as though you have a yeast infection are also symptoms. Blurry vision is a classic sign of uncontrolled diabetes. Ask your doctor to do a HbH1c also known as Hemoglobin H-1c test. This test gives you a snapshot of your blood sugar control over the past three months. You wrote this in January, so I'm praying this was not the case, as uncontrolled diabetes can do terrible damage to kidneys, eyesight, not to mention other bodily damage. If you still don't have an answer, please get tested as soon as possible! Here's praying you got the answers and treatment you needed, when you needed them.
TD Mac R.N., M.S.

I am 33 have had abnormal bleeding & severe pain for the last 6yrs with increasing problems listed below is how things have progressed for me
1) Dull ache in lower abdominal & back region never going away(this ache is always with me it has never stopped over the entire period from this starting).
2) Pain & light bleeding during intimacy.
3) Occasional sharp abdominal pain (if I were to try & describe it, I would have to say it is the abdominal version of the chest pain you get when you can't take in a breath for up to a minute but that it not only effects my abdomen but also sends shooting pain into my spine & legs.
4) Sharp pain became more frequent.
5) Bleeding started to become associated with the sharp pain.
6) Frequent abnormal bleeding between periods.
7) Periods became extremely painful, super heavy & early every 21 days or so they last for anywhere between 5-9days, first few days are usually clotty.
8 I bled through my entire second pregnancy, very scary, it was decided early on that I would have my tubes tied & take the risk of another pregnancy out of the picture completely. I wasn't going back for a 3rd anyway.
9) For the last 2yrs since having my second bleeding has also started with a bowel movement but not coming from the bowel, any strenuous exercise or lifting will also cause bleeding...I am overweight but not overly so. I am 5ft 4inches & 62kg. I was very fit previous to my ongoing problems & use to ride race horses with a weight of 42-45kg, I use to run the race track every morning & afternoon & watched what I ate very consciously...I still watch what I eat but with little exercise over the years my weight has increased.
10) I become fatigued very quickly.

Each & every time I went to my old Dr (Male) with concerns he insisted that my problems were due to intimacy with my husband my Dr presumed because my husband is 6ft 5inches that he was too "big" for me...I told him that was a load of rubbish my husband & I have been together 9yrs, if that were the case then it would of started back then...he insisted that if there was anything to be concerned about it would show up as abnormalities in my pap & that I have nothing to be concerned about (I only had one pap in the past that showed abnormalities but nothing shown since then).
After I changed Drs this time to a female Dr I've gone through many a test including an internal & external ultrasounds & various blood tests.
Changing my doctor & having these tests has resulted in the diagnosis of
1) Iron Deficient Anaemia - Being treated & monitored
2) Hashimotos Thyroid Disease with nodules - Being treated & monitored
3) Endometrial Hyperplasia with 17mm thickness (normal is 5mm)
I have been referred to a specialist & have spoken with him, he has told me I'm going for surgery on the next possible surgery date which is 23rd May 2011. He will be performing a Hysteroscopy, D&C & a biopsy he will also put an IUD device (essentially a birth control device) to try & treat the hyperplasia by reducing the hormones that create the need to have a period...but this will only be done if no abnormalities are seen, if abnormalities are present & concerning a Hysterectomy will likely be the outcome.

Good luck on your procedure! I just had the very same things done on April 28th. I was researching uterine/endometrial cancer when I happened upon this site.

Rest assured the procedure is a snap, takes about 30-45 minutes. My problem was a thickening of the endometrium (13mm) when I don't have periods due to an ovary disorder. I knew I was at great risk for uterine cancer due to being on hormone replacement therapy since I was 19 yrs old.

Thankfully, I just had a polyp in my uterus. My doc (female!) removed it and the lab results came back normal. I'll say a prayer for you that everything goes well and that you mend with no problems.

There is moderate-heavy bleeding directly after the procedure, then light bleeding (for me anyway) just the rest of that evening. The bleeding had completely stopped by the next day.

I would have been feeling better in a day or so if I hadn't come down with a kidney stone the week before my surgery! Oh and if you are having full anesthesia, which I did, you may have a sore throat and sore ribs/chest for a couple of days.

Other than that, it was an easy procedure and I felt very grateful to God when it was all over. I wish the same for you

God Bless!
TDMac

I am 23 I have been having extreme pain recently diagnosed with pcos (poly cystic ovarian syndrome) a week ago i was sent to the ER for lower abdominal pain, i was given an ultrasound and ct scan. The ultrasound found a 5.8cm mass on my left ovary, and the ct scan confirmed and also said my endometrium is 10mm from what i can find i believe average is 6.7mm. My left ovary also is 6*5.6*6cm my right is normal and measures 4.7*3.6*1.8cm i saw a gyn today that wants me to take birthcontrol pills, i hate them they make me sick, and I'm worried something feels horribly wrong and they just push it off like its no big deal "take birth control n see us in 2weeks." im in so much pain it hurts to bend at the waste. Another symptom i was experiencing was unknown weight gain. I normally weigh 115 and since this has started a week ago i now weigh almost 130.

I am 23 I have been having extreme pain recently diagnosed with pcos (poly cystic ovarian syndrome) a week ago i was sent to the ER for lower abdominal pain, i was given an ultrasound and ct scan. The ultrasound found a 5.8cm mass on my left ovary, and the ct scan confirmed and also said my endometrium is 10mm from what i can find i believe average is 6.7mm. My left ovary also is 6*5.6*6cm my right is normal and measures 4.7*3.6*1.8cm i saw a gyn today that wants me to take birthcontrol pills, i hate them they make me sick, and I'm worried something feels horribly wrong and they just push it off like its no big deal "take birth control n see us in 2weeks." im in so much pain it hurts to bend at the waste. Another symptom i was experiencing was unknown weight gain. I normally weigh 115 and since this has started a week ago i now weigh almost 130.

TDMac You are right. Look up estrogen dominance and insulin resistance. They are related to PCOS as well (which is not really cycts) and related to insulin and estrogen levels. The birth control sometimes *can* help because when you have estrogen dominance your body thinks its always building up a lining, building up a lining, and you need the balance of progesterone to balance your cycle and expel all of that junk. The birth control pills have hormones that help to get your body cycling (expelling) again. Without that, it might build up and you may end up like me, where you bleed for four months and become anemic. Mine was 22mm when I went to the DR today, and I am on my fourth week of hormone cycle because my body thinks I am always on the "upside" of my cycle, fit hat makes sense. We are stopping b/c pills today, and then starting cyclical progesterone in one week to try to get the balance and cycling correct. The bleeding when it gets that thick can be terrible, but b/c pills might help push it out, and stop the build up. If hormones don't work they can do a D&C, but that's surgical (not nec. dangerous, but invasive). The standard of care is an ultrasound and endometrial biopsy, but it's most likely that it is hormonal imbalances. They might also find uterine fibroids in the ultrasound, which also are related to estrogen but RARELY are cancerous (1 in 1000) and usually are left alone because often they disappear in menopause when your hormones shift and most of the time are asymptomatic (and you can still get pregnant with them!). I wish you luck! Try not to worry too much. I went through this once several years ago, and then recovered, and now I'm doing it again. But no permanent damage, just anemic!

Hello,
I am a 39 year old female.
I have had pain on my left side and pelvic pressure for the last six months, and the feeling of having to urinate. I have had a CT scan, abdominal ultrasound, and a transvaginal ultrasound. All reports show cysts on my left ovary and endometrium thickening.I was seen in urgent care and they thought I had a UTI took antibiotics which did nothing seen my GYN she told me I was too young to worry about anything and that the cysts and endometrium do not cause problems.Meanwhile, I am frustrated because I know my body and there is something not right.She also sent me back to my PCP for him to deal with.Has anyone had the same problem or any suggestion?

To answer the original posters question; endometrial thickness varies over the montly cycle, being thicker in the time prior to menstruation (period) Anything OVER 5mm in a menopausal woman (one who has not had a period for over 12 months) is treated as suspicious for cancer. Women non-menopausal, anything over 10 mm is treated as suspicious but not always for cancer, but highly likely. Most women are about 4 to 7mm anywhere in their cycle.