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Q: Earth Is 7000 years or 5,000,000,000
asked by: ServiceU on November 8th, 2009
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Is the world 7000 years old like most Christians believe, or is it 5,000,000,000 years old like scientist say. What do you believe and why?
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woops
replied on November 9th, 2009
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I believe that it doesn't really matter.

Whether it be a long time or a short time doesn't change what it is, or what should happen.

Imagine for a moment that you knew that it was 500,000,000,000,001.23456789123456 years old, what does that do for you?

Why know something like that?

I truly hope that there weren't dinosaurs, because this place would be like a little death producing little crappy @#$%hole where the life it produces is then destroyed over and over again!

And all that it seems to produce when it comes to life is a bunch of animals that eat eachother and fight constantly.

In conclusion, the longer this idiotic creation has been here means that a piece of garbage has been here a long time.

Agreed?
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calluna
replied on November 10th, 2009
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Christians believe that only one thing is necessary to be believed: that Jesus died on the cross for one's sins, to give his imputed righteousness to those who believe (justification by faith). Any who say or imply that it is necessary to believe that physical creation took place in any particular way (or anything else) are, they say, either antichrist or ignorant.

Early Genesis is nonsense if it is taken as a textbook of physical creation, because its two separate 'accounts' of creation must contradict each other in various ways (though some translations, notably the NIV, have tried to disguise these contradictions). The stories are undoubtedly allegories carrying much spiritual meaning, which can be discovered fully by reference to the Hebrew texts. That they are allegorical is obvious even to children reading in their native tongues.

Those who propose a young earth, Young-Earth Creationists, YECs, have four motives. They firstly wish to shift the basis of Christian belief onto an intellectual plane rather than one of a change of will. This results in phantom conversions, with people thinking they are Christians when they are not (and there are plenty of those already in the USA). Second, YECs aim to direct attention away from the spiritual themes present in Genesis chapters 1-11, which, even today, many real Christians are unaware of, to at least some extent.

Third, YECs aim to give as much importance as they can to Sundays, which is the day on which they encourage brief association of as little as an hour per week as a token commitment to Christ. The concept of a creation period of six literal days assists this practice. There is no dispute here that the Israelites did not keep a seven-day week; but that week was itself a prefigurement for Christianity, which itself is a 'sabbath' or rest from attempts to work for salvation. Works salvation is the principle of many sorts of false Christianity, so even those who are not themselves literalists may favor the spread of the young-earth view.

Fourth, by insisting on a creation account that is so much in contradiction with biology, geology, archaeology and even history, YECs attempt to ridicule Christianity and bring it into contempt.
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