Do you know what a baby looks like at 15 weeks? (Page 1)

this is just like the post where they suggested showing a video or pictures of what goes on during an abortion.
i am sorry that you went through that, and i can only imagine how hard of a thing that was for you to go through.
i like you would not get an abortion.

but there's a difference between you having a silent born, and those having an abortion.
you wanted the baby, the thought of abortion probably never crossed your mind.
the women who have abortions have different reasons for doing so, and some of them do not want the baby at all, so showing them a picture probably wont do anything and is a cruel thing to do to them, because your making them feel guilty for their own choice that they have made.
just like you have the choice on having a child, they have a choice too, be it keep, abort or put up for adoption. its still their choice, and we should not criticize that choice they make.

yeah, adoption would be a great thing for them to do with the child they do not want, but not everyone thinks of this when they find out their pregnant and the realization of 'i cannot afford this' crosses their mind, because im sure they had it set in their mind long ago that the first child they have will be with the guy they love, will be raised by them and they'll be happy loving parents.
but its different for everyong.

but everyone is intitled to their own decision and opinion. and some like i said, dont care about being shown a video on abortions, or being shown pictures. they want to get in and out of there as quickly as possible and move on with their life.
who's to say that when their ready they cant get pregnant and know that they are financially stable and ready to be parents? is the fact that they had an abortion going to be hung over their heads for all eternity?

To the OP, please keep prolife views out of this forum. This is the Abortion Pro-Choice forum, where prochoicers can feel free to post without the opinions of prolifers. If you wish to post, you can in the Abortion Prolife forum or the Abortion Debate forum.

Moved to Abortion Debate.

Thank you, Jules. To the OP, I have a very good idea of what a fetus looks like thank you very much. I have had preemies, all of my babies were preemies. The earliest was 23 weeks 5 days, or as I call, good enough for 24 weeks. He has since passed on. Does that make me want to stop a woman from an abortion if she chooses? No. Because, right now, I WOULD abort if I became pregnant. I have had three beautiful children, each coming earlier than the last. It would not be fair to put another potential child at risk. That being said, I am also not against abortion, PERIOD. I know full well the difference between a very wanted pregnancy and a pregnancy that could ruin a woman's entire life. I also know full well that a fetus at 15 weeks, heck even 24 weeks DOES NOT look like a full term baby, nor does it look like an 8 week fetus, the norm for an abortion. My earliest was a boy too. He did not have descended testicles, he had very immature lungs, his fat stores were nil, his ears were still malleable, easily molded and would stay in whatever shape they were molded into, his skin was translucent, his eyes were underdeveloped and had a haze to them, his fontanel was large. I can go on and on about the differences. Now, let me let you in on a piece of info: In most places, you cannot abort past 12 weeks. Those who abort at 15 weeks and up generally are aborting for fetal deformities or maternal risks. The reason it is heinous to show pictures to a woman who is aborting an 8 week fetus is simple: what she is aborting does not look like a full term fetus or like a 20 week fetus. It is misrepresentation. The reason it is heinous to show this to a woman aborting a 15 week or 20 week fetus is because she is most likely aborting due to fetal or maternal risks. How would you feel if the doctor came to you as you were in labor (miscarriage labor) and shoved pictures of healty, full term fetuses in your face, or healthy 15 week fetuses in your face and said, "This is what you are miscarrying"? Same goes for a woman aborting. No woman WANTS to have to abort. And it is not an easy choice to make. Why add insult to injury.
And like Proud said, you MISCARRIED A WANTED FETUS. I could easily turn the tables on you...what if you had to abort a very wanted fetus due to your life being at risk or your fetus had deformities incompatible with life? Would you want some doctor shoving pictures up in your face?
I support a woman's choice, no matter the circumstances, no matter what she chooses, be it adoption, abortion, parenting. I know how hard each choice can be to make, abortion is not the easy way out nor is it a cake walk.

I also think we have a good example of not accurately using the word baby here -- a fetus at 15 weeks looks very different from a baby at 15 weeks.

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder on this one.

I know what it looks like, and I don't give a flying fig. If I don't want it in my body, it's getting removed.

If you don't want it in your body then there is a very responsible solution: abstain from sex or use some form of BC and/or protection. Much simpler, cost effective, and more humane than killing something with a beating heart.

well isn't that nice of you i wish ur mother would've done the same too you.. people with words like yours to give life the credit it deserves so until you know the importance of it you shouldn't be breathing.. you make me sick!

I saw the ultrasound of my baby before I aborted it. It didn't affect my decision a bit. In fact, it made me feel better about what I was doing to be able to see the little creature in there and say my apologetic goodbyes. I made my peace with what I've done and nothing anyone says about the sanctity of human life is going to change my mind, and why should it? Who wants to feel bad about something they've done (or want to do) and come to terms with?

I'm sorry to say that pro-lifers are now in the minority, as evidenced by the fact that abortion is legal. Believe it or not, democratic governments mostly obey the majority's wishes on matters of moral legality.

And to answer your initial question, this is what a 15-week-old baby looks like: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/4777988 58_72590a0ae1.jpg I am staunchly opposed to killing humans in this and all independent stages of development.

A fetus like this one ( http://survivors.la/images/15-weeks.jpg ) will have to take its chances outside that cozy little bubble if its mother doesn't want it there.

I also deliverd my son at home at 15 weeks 7 days, all i can say is he was a perfect little baby, just 10 time smaller than a child born at full term, i will never forget how he looked.

My baby at 10 weeks was smaller than the size of a pea, you couldn't tell the sex and you couldn't see much, it looked like a miniture peanut.

I am about 8 wks pregnant and trying to decide on whether to keep it. this is the first time ive been pregnant and im only 20 years old. The father doesnt want it and he's no longer in my life. I've heard that at 8 wks theres a distinctive heartbeat. I DO want this child, it breaks my heart to think about aborting but I dont think its in my best interest to have it. Does this make me selfish?

Yes, there is a heartbeat and if you concider this life to be a child and aborting your child will break your heart, I don't recommend aborting. You very well may regret and grief is horrible enough without grieving with regret. If you don't think you can raise a child, why not look at adoption?

Perhaps the woman who abort their 15 week old fetus don't know what it looks like but that's not my problem. Only about 4% of pregnancies are terminated this late and they are usually for medical reasons. If I knew someone who waited till the 15th week to abort I'd try to talk them out of it because I KNOW what the baby looks like at that point. I only believe in abortion before the 8th week(embryonic stage) and so do most people. So this little speech is moot.

Obviously you never suffered the pain and grief of a miscarrage. Your post is cruel and heartless and an insult to all mothers who have suffered this pain.

Furthermore, if she did miscarry, I think she needs to be taken down a peg if she thinks she can swing her dead baby at me like a ball bat and expect me to be all solemn and respectful about it. Grieving for a dead child is one thing, but I think it goes beyond grief (and into the realm of ghoulish opportunism) to use a tragedy like that to force one's abortion views on the general public. "I had a miscarriage, so if you argue about my opinions, you're just cruel and heartless."

Miscarriages suck, but let me flip a coin that "lifers" like to hold up. Just as there are plenty of childless couples out there praying to have a baby, there are tons of pregnant women praying for a miscarriage because they can't afford an abortion. To one of them, your little "tragedy" would have been a blessing. See how perspective can change everything?

Since I was pregnant and prayed for a mc, then got what I asked for, I have to very much disagree with you. You do go through labor pains and a "delivery" when you mc. What? Deliveries only result in live healthy babies? Actually my mc at 12 weeks was much more painful than any of my deliveries and lasted as long and would have lasted longer other than the fact I was bleeding to death and had to have a D&C. My "blessing" of a mc was also a "tragedy" and you stating otherwise is STILL an insult to ALL women who have mc whether their pregnancy was wanted or not.
As you your "opinion" on what is greivable and what is not, means nothing especially to a grieving mother. She has earned the right to "swing" her died child at whomever she wants. Your terminology is nasty as is your intention.