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Q: Dating and Bipolar
asked by: rpmarco on January 13th, 2009
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Hi everyone,

I just joined this forum, mostly in response to a guy who was posting asking for help with his bp girlfriend. There seems to be a lot out there from people without bp asking for help with being with someone who is.

Reading this guy's post was really disconcerting, not for anything he said, but for how it made me think about my future. It's hard enough trying to meet someone you are compatible with and who you can love and who loves you. But being bp, and all the stigma and apprehension attached to the diagnosis, i wonder...is there any hope for us?

For one thing, yes, dating and loving someone with bp is hard. we have a lot of issues. but i don't think we are given enough credit for living relatively 'normal' lives, for being able to take responsibility for our actions. also, having to bear the burdens of 'bad apples' who give bp that terrifying reputation makes things that much harder.

I will start by saying that I am 28, relatively good looking (from what people tell me), emotionally and sexually mature and healthily integrated, socially adept, and have a lot of qualities and talents that would on the surface make me an ideal guy to date. I don't drink (maybe a beer here or there, but very little), i take medication regularly, and having lived consciously with my diagnosis for 10 years, i am learning more and more my triggers and red flags, so that i might avoid them. I am also Catholic, and living by a prescribed code of morality has saved me from a lot of the behaviours (promiscuity, lying, excessive spending) mentioned in the previous post.

nonetheless, i have my struggles as someone with bp. when i am being crushed by depression, i can recognize it, but that doesn't make it any easier to socialize, be open and intimate, to work, etc. when i am manic, yes, i may talk faster, may be more excited. i can accept that at times i will be incapable of certain things, despite my best efforts, but that does not mean someone i am with is able to accept it. i have lived and been alone more than with someone, though i have had a number of relationships, and was even engaged at one point. it is, i think, easier to be alone, but the loneliness can be at times a terrible burden. i have love to offer, and if i got married i would want to serve and cherish my wife as the apple of my eye. but getting to that point...of ever even getting married based on how hard it is for someone to love someone with bi polar disorder...is beginning to feel like a pipe dream.

what is disconcerting is how one's stigmatized reputation based on a diagnosis, precedes you. when you mention, or confess, that you are bp, people associate it with their experiences. there are many "i knew this guy who was bi polar and he was always breaking dishes and flying off the handle," kinds of stories that people have in their head. i am not that guy. i am me. i am responsible when it comes to managing my illness. while i am not seeing a therapist presently, i meet with my spiritual director regularly, and we discuss many of these things, esp. when i am not doing well. i have friends, my parents...a 'safety network' who i call when i am not feeling well. i try to be mindful of not being a burden, but also want to give my friends and family more credit than i might, that they love me and want to be there for me. i hate taking my meds. but i do, because the consequences are that much worse. i stay informed, and try to engage CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy), and ACT (acceptance & commitment therapy).

i have a diminished libido and flatness of emotion, which can can squelch the dynamism and energy i had before diagnosed and 'treated' and make it hard to be genuinely sexually engaged. i feel empty many times, existential loneliness (not based on not being around people, etc) and no one can help with that. unwarranted emotional pain is as common for me as people with cancer or some other physical sickness.

like i said, it is hard enough trying to meet someone to love and be loved by. as a man with bi polar disorder, i fear my prospects for the future are somewhat bleak. finding a good Catholic woman I can share my spiritual life and moral values with, who ALSO can be loving, supportive, and accepting of my illness...I can only entrust such an outcome to God--though i will continue to do my part--since it seems like being in far left field, waiting for your turn to be engaged in the game.

I'd welcome any thoughts from people, some hope maybe. whether i am single or with someone, happiness comes from within. i try to remember this. but in all honesty, i wonder, realistically, and given the posts and what i have read about people's experiences dating someone with bp, what my romantic future holds given my circumstances...
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lifenotsame
replied on January 13th, 2009
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re: bp relationships
dear rpmarco ....my son has bp too, he is 20.
i am glad to hear there is help out there. sounds like you have gotten a good handle on it, and cope remarkably well.
that gives me hope for my son. he has been living with my parents for several years. my mom was a nurse, and has the patience of a saint. which unfortunatley i don't. i suffer from TMJ and stressful situations i just can't cope with.depressions is also a factor with TMJ, which means i am not much help with someone with bp! i feel guilty not being able to care for him as I should, but he knows I love him more than anything, and that being with his nan is the best thing for him. he knows i support him fully in anything he needs to try or do. he is on his way to visit me now!
i have the same dreams for him that you do about finding someone special. i hope he maybe finds a nurse! that would be ideal! but who knows?
right now...he is learning how to manage his life basically. learning how to manage money, stay organized, hold down a job, and most important, take his medications which includes epilepsy drugs too. but he knows he has to take them to live as normal as possible. he learned the hard way.
anyway. just wanted to say i was glad to read what you wrote. it gives me hope that life is manageable and somewhat 'normal' for those with bp. and i wish you all the best.
Hayley Murphy
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notanymore
replied on January 16th, 2009
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wow
i understand this completely. i was diagnosed with bp recently and my relationships have suffered tremendously.
i believe there is hope, honestly. there are people out there that are equipped to handle bipolar disorder. its extremely difficult and sometimes i think people don't understand that it is just as hard on us as it is on them. i hate being this way, and that existential lonliness you are talking about...
you are absolutely not alone, i live with it everyday. i have been dependent on finding happiness in others and have only be disappointed many times. you have to find it within, and i think this is the greatest and longest challenge.

thanks for the post though Smile
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Hatsumomo
replied on January 21st, 2009
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Hope for Relationships
Wow! It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on yourself, particularly given your disorder. Your story gives me hope, as that a more balanced life is some thing I am striving for also.

As for relationships, I believe there is alot of hope. I have bipolar disorder (and a few others...see my profile) and I am 34. While relationships have been challenging for me, I recently realized that I have been very blessed with 3 true loves in my life. Men who took the time to really get to know me look past my faults, mistakes and occasional bizarre behavior - and love me for me.

My present love, is also bipolar. We help each other through our moods and it is very good. This relationship takes more work and understanding, but is also more rewarding.

My ex-husband is a very kind and caring man. Sadly, our marriage could not survive my disorder. My ex was unable to cope with it, as his mother is paranoid schizophrenic (untreated) and his childhood was extremely traumatic. It was simply beyond his ability to handle these types of instability. But to this day we are still close friends and still love each other.

My first love was bipolar, though I did not learn of it until a few years ago. Again, a difficult relationship - yet we had a special love and connection, formed by sharing the same "rollercoaster".

I have consciously made the choice to get involved with men with a similar diagnosis to mine, for the most part. I find it the best fit to meet my needs and theirs. But there are many wonderful, caring men out there as well. Ones who are willing to love you WITH your disorder, not in spite of it. I have always thought that the best of these were the kind that start off as friends. And that it is a wise woman or man who sees their potential as possibly more.

Sorry for the rambling, my point is this. There are many options out there for happiness and relationships when you are open to them. Stigma is an issue for some people, but many others believe that everyone deserves to be loved, even those of us with metal illnesses.

Best wishes Smile
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cyanideandsugar
replied on February 5th, 2009
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your story sounds similar to me. i have bipolar disorder, and my boyfriend does not. he is incredibly patient with me though, when i am depressive or manic, and though it is true that we get into fights, we always talk through our problems and resolve them, even if in the end we just have to chalk it up to me being manic and saying something i shouldn't have, or him being impatient with me. but the point is, for the most part he has learned to deal with it, and our relationship gets stronger every day. so don't despair - there are lovers out there who will see your good qualities instead of the stigma and will love you even when you are difficult.
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