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cutting carbs out of diet Posted: 07-07-08 22:50pm
ive decided to cut all carbs out of my
diet.
what do u think about it.
what foods am i not allowed to eat and if
u cut your carbs out are you allowed to
have cereal
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rowdyg
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Posted: 07-08-08 08:11am
I can't think of a cereal that isn't a
carb. But I'm wondering, is there a
specific reason that you have decided to
cut out all carbs? There are different
types of carbs, namely simple versus
complex carbs. Simple carbs (breads, etc.)
give you quick energy but don't stay in
your body long. Complex carbs (fruits,
whole grains) give you energy as well, but
they stick around in your stomach and
provide more nutritional value.
From my perspective, cutting out all carbs
is a somewhat difficult lifestyle change
to maintain, since carbs are everywhere.
It might be more effective to try limiting
yourself to only having carbs once a day
or 300 calories worth of carbs - if cereal
is something you really like, maybe have
cereal once a day, but go for a whole
grain cereal like Kashi Go Lean Crunch or
simple bran flakes. Then, you can try to
avoid carbs the rest of the day (I LOVE
cereal, and would have a hard time living
without my Honey Bunches of Oats).
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DPGfitness
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Posted: 07-08-08 15:51pm
i base most of the diets i give to my
clients are no carb for a short period but
i add in a carb day or two specific to
what the goals of the individual are. if
you are interested in getting a meal plan
PM me.
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VictoriaGB
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Posted: 07-09-08 14:38pm
If you're cutting out carbohydrate then
you'll want to cut out fruit, veggies,
bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, cereals,
grains, oats, milk, all sugar, the list is
endless. Your diet will consist of protein
and fat, which includes meat, fish,and
healthy fats such as extra virgin olive
oil.
I strongly advise against doing this for
any more than two weeks. This diet is
shown to have adverse effects in the long
term. Also be aware that your body is
likely to go into ketosis which won't feel
(or smell) great for the first few days.
Since I know nothing of your current
health or reasons for doing this diet, I
would also strongly advise you to speak to
your doctor before starting this diet.
On a slight side note, the sugar in fruit
as we know is fructose, a monosaccahride.
Other monosaccharides include glucose and
galactose. These are single unit sugars
and otherwise known as 'simple carbs'.
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Maddie34
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Posted: 07-09-08 14:53pm
I don't think it's a very realistic diet.
The best diets feel like you're not
dieting at all, and you WILL feel like you
can't eating anything with this diet and
will be hard (and unhealthy) to keep up.
Try controlling portion size rather than
elliminating something completely.
Can you tell us more about why you want
this diet? What are your goals and what
have you tried already?
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DPGfitness
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Posted: 07-09-08 14:58pm
to each their own i disagree completely.
i'm on it now and am leaner,stronger and
feel better than ever!
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VictoriaGB
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Posted: 07-09-08 15:48pm
I completely agree, one of the most
important keys to weight loss is
controlling portion size. Many people
focus far more on 'what' to eat when their
issue is more with 'how much'. Benefits
aren't limited to those wishing to lose
weight, there are many people suffering
faigue, emotional imbalances, bloating and
various other symptoms primarily because
their portion sizes are too large.
It is a case of each to their own
unfortunately, extreme carbohydrate
cutting is a very controversial diet in
itself besides the fact that everyone's
body is different. Some people feel great
on a lower arb intake, others not so
good.
Cutting carbs to <20g is essentially a
ketogenic diet. The ketogenic diet is
known primarily for it's use with
epileptic children, it's been successful
in helping with certain types of seizures
in just over 50% of cases. Unfortunately
in adults the diet wasn't shown to be very
successful.
The diet has become very popular among
dieters and weight lifters who take
advantage of the ketogenic state for fat
burning.
There are very good arguments both for and
against ketosis. It's generally agreed
that after the initial feelings of being
hit by 50 trucks, you become more
energetic as your body adapts to breaking
down fat for energy. As your body breaks
down fat, ketones start to build up in
your blood. For most people this doesn't
appear to cause any immediate issue and
can be detected using the bran Ketostix or
similar product. Excessive build up of
ketones is thought to cause the blood to
turn acidic so this state should be
monitored with care. As good as ketosis is
reported as being for fat loss, harmful
long term effects on the body are still up
for debate. Current known effects include
kidney stones, liver disfunction, and high
cholesterol.
Personally, from my own research and
experience (yes I have followed this diet
myself), I believe a ketogenic diet to be
acceptable in the short term (two weeks).
Long term use of this diet should be
avoided as it's potentially very harmful
to the body. Our bodies are not designed
to live in a state of ketosis for any
prolonged period of time.
However, lowering your carbohydrate
consumption, especially if you have been
consuming a high amount of carbohydrate
for some time, could benefit you in the
long run. By lowering your carb intake I
mean no lower than 120g, this will allow
you adequate fuel to function healthily
while helping avoid the negative effects
of consuming too much carbohydrate. This
is my recommendation and is not official.
DPGfitness, you're not a weight lifter by
any chance are you?
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charmedwitch
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Posted: 07-10-08 23:01pm
ok thanks so how many grams of carbs
should i be eating a day
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VictoriaGB
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Posted: 07-11-08 00:36am
Recommended intake is around 285g a day
depending on your body weight.
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charmedwitch
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Posted: 07-11-08 04:51am
okay would 50g be enough
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DPGfitness
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Posted: 07-11-08 08:52am
I am a weight lifter. I was an athlete
turned Powerlifter turned bodybuilder. I
know the importance of nutrition, health
and exercise. I have tried numerous diets
and know what works and what doesn't. I am
a personal trainer and nutritionist.
Depending on the person diets with carbs
will not work, case and point me. Actually
the might work for me but why lose 20lbs
over 20 weeks when I can lose the same
weight in 9 weeks all because my body
reacts differently.
Who are has the leanest bodies on the
planet? Bodybuilders. Why not do what they
do. Size and bulk is a different story so
lets not get into that. I'm saying it
comes down to nutrition and less than 50g
a day of carbs is what all of them do
(unless they are taking insulin shots,
another topic for another day though yet
again). Almost 300g/day would mean bulking
up and that would be equivalent to 50-70%
of your calories. Get lean get off the
carbs, plain and simple. Ask yourself how
bad do you want it. Its not easy but to
the serious ones it doesn't matter you
just do it!
I will offer my services again if you want
to put a meal plan together. PM me!
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Maddie34
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Posted: 07-11-08 09:34am
The problem I have with losing weight fast
is that most people tend to reach
their goal and then STOP whatever it is
they were doing. Yes, it's great that they
can lose 20 pounds in half the time, but
keeping it off is what's important.
Sometimes people don't even get that they
are needlessly yo-yo dieting and how
unhealthy that is. They are just so
focused on losing pounds that they aren't
realizing they have been losing and
gaining back the same twenty pounds.
If charmedwitch is the average person,
then learning to control portion size and
keeping up a daily exercise is more
beneficial than some crash diet without
supervision. People aren't all body
builders for a reason DPG, it's hard to
keep up for most people and many aren't
really that in tune with their body!
Charmedwitch, there's no magic number for
carb intake. Why don't you try 175-200g
for awhile and start to take away carbs
until you start to lose weight? If you
could be losing weight when eating 175g
then why go any lower?
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DPGfitness
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Posted: 07-11-08 09:36am
Perhaps carb cycling would be a moderate
alternatove to both approaches
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Maddie34
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Posted: 07-11-08 09:42am
I think that'd be something worth trying.
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charmedwitch
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Posted: 07-11-08 13:57pm
ok ill have about 150 g a day
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VictoriaGB
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Posted: 07-11-08 14:12pm
I just wrote the most massive informative
post ever. But I got logged out so it
vanished when I submitted!
Maybe a general "low carb - good or bad?"
thread could be constructed in the debate
forum.
I'll settle for 150g a day
Don't forget to have small meals, often,
and healthy choices. That's the key.
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Posted: 07-11-08 14:36pm
Yep, we could do that in general debate
forum and I'll put a link to it in a few
other relavant forums. I'd rather people
who are interested are able to find it you
know? Thanks for the suggestion!
I hate it when I get logged off. There's a
remember me check under the log in on the
upper left hand corner. It won't ever log
you out that way
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VictoriaGB
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Posted: 07-11-08 14:42pm
Unfortunately my laptop blew up last night
so I'm hopping on my husbands when I can.
I didn't want to leave my account logged
in. Will have a replacement PC tomorrow
though so back to normal
Anyway, off topic.
Good luck charmedwitch. If you need
anymore guidance let us know!
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Maddie34
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Posted: 07-11-08 14:55pm
Victoria, I know it probably took you
awhile to type that up, but I am
interested in what you had to say!
Low should be 50g or less
Med 51-100g
high 100-200g
Just judge days by your workouts like on
legs day i would carb up all day so high
carbs would be good for me as fri is
bi/tri so low/no would be perfect as well.
