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warbux

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creatine side effects
Posted: 04-29-08 23:35pm

I am a male, in my early 20's, 5'9" ~145lbs with no history of health issues.

Last week I decided to get back into working out after about 2 years off. I headed to GNC and purchased a can of "Cell-Tech", and a box of "Nitro-tech". The Cell-Tech is a creatine supplement which also contains the following ingredients:

- lab-grade dextrose, citric acid, calcium silicate, natural and artificial flavor, modified food starch, gum arabic, titanium dioxide, tricalcium phosphate, xanthan gum, fd&c red no.40.

The Nitro-Tech is basically a protein shake.

I was to take 2 scoops (or 100 g) of the Cell-Tech (creatine) every morning, and directly after workouts for 5 days, and the Nitro-Tech just after every workout.
A few days into my program my left arm (between the bottom of the end of the bicep and the elbow) had become swollen. It freaked me out a little because it didn't hurt (only the expected soreness after working out), no discolor, and I know I didn't push myself that hard. Well, the swelling went down in that arm.
Two days later I noticed that the outer (right) side of my right forearm had swollen, from about my elbow to 2/3rds the way up (not near the wrist).
The swelling does not have any pain, it is puffy, and from what I have read online it sounds like pitted edema (if I push on it for 5 seconds it will leave a dent).

I recalled bumping my right forearm on a desk, not hard enough for any real injury, but perhaps hard enough to bruise slightly. So I thought this must have something to do with water retention in my muscles from the creatine, I decided to hit my other forearm with my right knuckle, not hard enough to hurt myself, but just as hard as when I had bumped into the desk with my right forearm. I thought if this swells up I know that it is from the bump, and not just some random occurrence.
The next afternoon I noticed that my left forearm, right around where I hit it, had in fact swollen.

The left arm's swelling (which was never pitted, by the way) has seemingly gone away, the right and left forearms swelling have not gone away, and both have pitting. The right forearms swelling has been around for ~2days, the left for a little over 24hrs. I can't tell if either have gone down at all, but they are still obviously swollen.
The swelling in either has never been huge, but has been noticeable to myself and others.


My theory is that the creatine which is supposedly known to cause water retention did exactly that (retained water in my body), and when these minor injuries happened, it (aggravated, popped, something?) and water began filling into the muscles around these areas. Of course I really have no clue what I'm talking about, so maybe someone here (hopefully a doctor) can help me.
I can't seem to find anything similar to this in google searches.

Working out, and Creatine supplement are the only new introductions to my life. No drugs, no medications, don't drink/smoke, have always had a clean bill of health.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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warbux

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Posted: 04-29-08 23:36pm

Obviously I have discontinued use of the Cell-tech and Nitro-Tech, and have not been working out. I stopped all of this the day before yesterday.
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warbux

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Posted: 04-30-08 02:23am

I am sorry I do not know how the procedure on these forums work. I tried to post this as a question for the doctor but did not notice it got cut off short.
Will the doctor for this forum have a chance to read this?
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warbux

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Posted: 05-01-08 03:02am

Nice forum.
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Posted: 05-01-08 11:01am

Warbux,

I am sorry for the delay in anyone providing an answer to your querie. This is what I know - creatine will provide hydration to the muscle tissue. I do not read any evidence of subcutaneous edema associated with creatine use. Creatine is not recommended for individuals with known kidney insufficiency or disease. Creatine is known to increase muscle mass due to its ability to increase available ATP. ATP is the fuel for the cell. More ATP = more energy thus more powerful workout. Creatine is credited with assisting in memory and other neurological benefits. Cardiac benefits include lowering cholesterol and benefits those with congestive heart failure.

I do not think the creatine is the cause of the edema you discussed. Localized swelling is more likely due to injury and the edema that occurs as a result of the injury. You posted that you discontinued use of the creatine. Has the edema subsided?

Once the edema subsides you can resume working out. Keep an eye on the areas you saw the edema occur. If it occurs again I would consult a doctor. There is a chance that you may have caused some muscle injury.

I am not sure I answered your questions. I hope this is beneficial.
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EddyMc

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Posted: 06-22-08 16:34pm

I can take a guess that the creatine did not cause this it has just been coincidental that it happend at the same time as you starting to take creatine, it sounds like you have caused yourself an injury or there is an underlying problem, I personally would go to a doctor and have it looked if you have caused an injury to a muscle and want to keep lifting better to get it sorted now than worry about it later.

As for the Creatine, Make sure you have increased your water intake when using it, if you don't it can start causing dehydration due to the increased water uptake of your muscles starving other organs of water, have a look here http://www.bodybuil ding.com/fun/likness2.htm you really should do a lot of research before you take a supplement, also have a look here http://www.t-nation.com/ read everything on there, it will really help you with your lifting/suplementing/nutrition.

Eddy
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