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Q: cord compressed disc bulge symptoms ?
asked by: casey4 on June 22nd, 2008
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I found out that I have a disc bulge with degenerative disc disease and cord compression. I have since had numerous weird things happening and I need to know if these symptoms are due to these new findings? A lot of the symptoms I have i know go along with the compression and disc such as a band feeling around my chest and my waist, numbness and tingling in my back with extreme pain. However my stomach directly under my rib cage is extremely tight and it sometimes feel like the muscle or stomach area is having a spasm. It's as if I feel the muscle or stomach suck in. Also the other thing I am not certain goes with this is that my right leg at times is difficult to move and at other times feels incredibly heavy. Thanks in advance for any help. I am new here and this is my first
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CarolDiane
replied on June 23rd, 2008
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If I am correct, the nevers in the spinal canal run every part of you body. ei...a pinched nerve in the lumbar area could cause numbness and tingling in you hands. Depending on which vertibre it is, it can cause all sorts of havoc with your body. I have two buldging disc's L,3-4 and 5 is setting on a nerve. 5 is the on that effects my legs. Sometimes when I am bending doing yard work etc, my legs pain so bad I have to take a Vicodin 10 mg. So, each set of nerves have a different perpose.

5 cervical
12 thoracic
5 lumbar
2 sacral

(If I remember correctly)
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Zak_han
replied on June 23rd, 2008
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Hi
It sounds like what you're describing is soft tissue injuries around T12/L1/L2, which can become worse over time and lead to stomach symptoms as you said . Given the extremely tight and the functional limitations it's now placing on you, and" the right leg is difficult to move and at other times feels incredibly heavy" are due to stenosis which you possibly suffering from. it probably is time to consult with a reputable doctor. You can start with your primary care physician, who can help you determine your next step or who you need to see.
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casey4
replied on June 23rd, 2008
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I guess I should have noted that the disc bulge is at T7. The problems I am still facing is that this stomach tightness is not letting up. It is so tight and it feel like the muscle is being sucked in.It is in the top of my stomachunderneath the upside down v of the ribs about 2-3 inches below that area and also in my left side. Can this be caused by the T7 bulge or the spinal cord that is being compressed? Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zak_han
replied on June 23rd, 2008
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If you have Stomach ulcer, gall bladder problems, trapped wind, indigestion, breathing difficulties and other chest complaints

Problem from Middle Thoracic Spine (at the bra-strap) T5-T8 Upper abdomen, middle ribs

But I still don't think it's due to compressed or bulge disc.

Take care
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RichT
replied on June 24th, 2008
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Hello Zak han,

I am not a doctor, however, with due respect I disagree with your thoughts.

From what Casey has described and from what the doctor determined there is "a disc bulge with degenerative disc disease and cord compression". Other symptoms are also described, however, from all that I have read they can very well be associated with the spine issues.

CarolDiane is very correct regarding what she has presented in her post in my opinion.

RichT
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janeho
replied on June 24th, 2008
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Compression of the nerve route at T7 can have an effect on the muscles it supplies.
From Grays anatomy:
"the sensation complained of is often a feeling of constriction, as if a cord was tied around the abdomen"
Good luck with your recovery
jane
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RichT
replied on June 24th, 2008
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Hello Jane,

YES!!!! In talking with my doctor and the reading that I have done, any time a nerve is "pinched/restricted", it often affects other parts of our body in different ways.

For me, a pinched nerve at L3/L4 resulted in pain radiating down my right leg, and I had a tinkling sensation in the lower part of my leg. An epidural injection with Kenalog reduced the inflammation and in time no pain or tingling sensation in my leg.

RichT
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CarolDiane
replied on June 24th, 2008
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How true this is. Before I had my Kyphrplasty on T-12 to L-1 my pain went all the way around my both kidneys. And that did know even involve a nevre. That was my 55% brake. But, I believe, that the brake itself may have compressed the two vertibrea just enough to cause that radiating pain. Radiating pain is so very common in many injuries due to the fact that there are so many nerves, tendons and muscles that could also be involved. With some strangulation.
I am very impressed Rich with that inj of Kenalog. Must be a coristeroid yes? And how long may I ask does this usually last you for? I much rather have my son with a Thoracic (lower) problem take an inj rather then an oral steroid long term. Might even have a little Lidocaine in it?

Carrie
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casey4
replied on June 24th, 2008
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Thanks so much to everyone who has replied. It is so nice to finally have someone care enough to try and help. I have severe asthma and have had two attacks in 24 hours and am waiting for a breathing treatment here soon. If my passageways are still too narrow after the treatment I am going to have to be admitted to the hospital. So I may not be on for awhile and I want to thank you for all u guys have done in trying to help me figure this so very very painful situation out. THANKS AGAIN!!!! ; )
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CarolDiane
replied on June 24th, 2008
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casey4 wrote:
Thanks so much to everyone who has replied. It is so nice to finally have someone care enough to try and help. I have severe asthma and have had two attacks in 24 hours and am waiting for a breathing treatment here soon. If my passageways are still too narrow after the treatment I am going to have to be admitted to the hospital. So I may not be on for awhile and I want to thank you for all u guys have done in trying to help me figure this so very very painful situation out. THANKS AGAIN!!!! ; )


scared I also have asthma since age 5. Why are you waiting for a treatment?! Did you take your rescue already? Are you on DuoNeb or similar? You should not wait to take a breathing treatment. I had an hour long one in the ER once and alway had two or three in a row. Did you call your doctor. I was never aware you have to wait any leangh of time for a treatment... scared Confused Could you be in battle with something else here? Bronchitis, etc. You should have gotton some relief in the last 24 hours. I would go to the ER if I were you. Just my own opinion and experience. This could possibily be anxietly induced. Do you have anything for aniety? An bad attack will almost gaurantee an attack.
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casey4
replied on June 24th, 2008
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I just got the nebulizer yesterday I use the lowest dose of albuterol .83 i think it is. I had already used rescue inhaler of ventolin which is the same thing as albuterol just dispensed differebtly really. I had called my doc becaus i had had the asthma attack yesterday and got a steroid shot of celestone and breath. trtm. and then it cam about again last night and today she told me to take my other meds first wait 10 minutes start the treatment and then if no better call her but it is a little better so i will wait it out and see but these muscle spasms are so much of a problem they affect my breathing so I will probably call her after my next treatment which will be in 4 hours i take them every 4-6 hours as need. TY for your help. U r such a great person to be so helpful!
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CarolDiane
replied on June 24th, 2008
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casey4 wrote:
I just got the nebulizer yesterday I use the lowest dose of albuterol .83 i think it is. I had already used rescue inhaler of ventolin which is the same thing as albuterol just dispensed differebtly really. I had called my doc becaus i had had the asthma attack yesterday and got a steroid shot of celestone and breath. trtm. and then it cam about again last night and today she told me to take my other meds first wait 10 minutes start the treatment and then if no better call her but it is a little better so i will wait it out and see but these muscle spasms are so much of a problem they affect my breathing so I will probably call her after my next treatment which will be in 4 hours i take them every 4-6 hours as need. TY for your help. U r such a great person to be so helpful!


You are so very welcome my friend. I have suffered from severe asthma most of my life (40 years) and let me tell you, I have seen more of the inside of an ER then I could in another lifetime. I have my own Neb also. But, since I have gotton much older and have now advanced to COPD (moderate) I take different meds along with my asthma meds. I take three inhailers and one oral. That is counting my rescue. I know how desperate it can be when you feel you can't get your next breath. I know how it feels to think you are going to die. I feel for YOU! This illness and others I hold very close to my heart and for those that have them I also feel the desparity that they have when in battle. Sounds like you have pretty much covered girl. Just follow doc's orders and you should be alright. Most important is try to relax. Easier said then done I know. Deep breath through your nose and out your mouth like you were blowing out candles on a cake. This way your CO2 level will not build as much.
You are in my thoughts and prayers. Keep me posted OK.

Hugs,
Carrie
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RichT
replied on June 24th, 2008
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Hello Carrie,

AHHHHhhh feels better calling you Carrie Smile Thought I would do so being you "signed" your last posts as "Carrie".

Yes, Kenalog is a trade name of a corticosteroid. It is given with lidocaine to "numb" the area were the needle goes (up my tailbone lol). Only bummer is that the lidocaine affects my stability for about 45 minutes after the injection. No big deal, that way I can talk with the nurses. Wink

The epidurals have been lasting me about 4 months. That is not to say that in between I don't have a "bad weather" day now and then which seems to be that $^%$*@ arthritis as all my joints including my ole back act up. I'll stay with the epidurals as long as they can still permit me to function in an acceptable manner.

You have provided Casey with very good thoughts, info and wisdom.

Have a GREAT Day!!!

RichT
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CarolDiane
replied on June 24th, 2008
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RichT wrote:
Hello Carrie,

AHHHHhhh feels better calling you Carrie Smile Thought I would do so being you "signed" your last posts as "Carrie".

Yes, Kenalog is a trade name of a corticosteroid. It is given with lidocaine to "numb" the area were the needle goes (up my tailbone lol). Only bummer is that the lidocaine affects my stability for about 45 minutes after the injection. No big deal, that way I can talk with the nurses. Wink

The epidurals have been lasting me about 4 months. That is not to say that in between I don't have a "bad weather" day now and then which seems to be that $^%$*@ arthritis as all my joints including my ole back act up. I'll stay with the epidurals as long as they can still permit me to function in an acceptable manner.

You have provided Casey with very good thoughts, info and wisdom.

Have a GREAT Day!!!

RichT


Wink luvcomp Thanks Rich
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twingles
replied on November 11th, 2009
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Please give me your opinion!
Wow after reading all this you guys are alot of help! I would like to get your help on my current situation. I am 34 years old and was in a car accident in 2005 and been dealing with a drs on my back problems and migranes and most recently on two medicines for back pain and migranes and get steroid shots for my back pain in my SI joint when needed. I got my second series of shots on Oct 23 about a week before the shots I was awoken with a horrible right leg pain I explained that to my doctor prior to my shots she said that helps her know where she needs to administer the shots. After the injection I told her my legs felt funny to the day my right side still is heavy and doesn't feel right! I can say it is somewhat better but not yet great! It has improved only within the last couple of days but still not back to normal. They have put me on inflammation and pain medicine. I also have a lump on my forearm below my elbow on the right and left arm they explained that does not come from the injection site those come from the brain/neck area - they sent me on over for a cervical and brain MRI when I went back on Nov 4 for a check up and cervical MRI was negative and I had only very small plaques on MRI otherwise clear. My right arm is very painful as well as times. Can anyone help me with any suggestions? Please! I do have an appt with a Neurologist but this waiting game is so scary!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Beth
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littleonefb
replied on November 11th, 2009
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Re: Please give me your opinion!
Hi Beth,

I'm so sorry you are dealing with these problems and it's gone on for so long.

I'll try and help with some suggestions, but please remember, I am not a doctor, just another person with spine problems, experience with them and lots and lots of research I've done.



twingles wrote:
Wow after reading all this you guys are alot of help! I would like to get your help on my current situation. I am 34 years old and was in a car accident in 2005 and been dealing with a drs on my back problems and migranes and most recently on two medicines for back pain and migranes and get steroid shots for my back pain in my SI joint when needed.

I got my second series of shots on Oct 23 about a week before the shots I was awoken with a horrible right leg pain I explained that to my doctor prior to my shots she said that helps her know where she needs to administer the shots. After the injection I told her my legs felt funny to the day my right side still is heavy and doesn't feel right! I can say it is somewhat better but not yet great! It has improved only within the last couple of days but still not back to normal.

It's not uncommon to have an increase in pain after steroid injections that then subsides or begins to subside over the next 2 weeks.

Was this just a trigger point injection to you S1 joint or was it an epidural steroid injection?

The reason I ask is this.

You told your doctor about the pain in your leg before the last injection and she said it would help her to know where to administer the injection.
If she was giving you an injection for the S1 joint only, it wouldn't help this new pain you developed.

Did she give you 2 injections then?

Where they done under any kind of floroscopy?

Did she use any lidocaine along with the steroid injection?

Can you describe the type of pain you are feeling in your back and the new pain in your leg?

How long ago did you have a lumbar spine MRI done and do you have a copy of the MRI reading that you can post the info from?

They have put me on inflammation and pain medicine. I also have a lump on my forearm below my elbow on the right and left arm they explained that does not come from the injection site those come from the brain/neck area - they sent me on over for a cervical and brain MRI when I went back on Nov 4 for a check up and cervical MRI was negative and I had only very small plaques on MRI otherwise clear.

Do you have a copy of the MRI reading on the cervical spine MRI? and the brain MRI that you can post.

If you don't have copies of those MRI readings, you need to get a copy of them, it is your right to have a copy of them and it is legally yours to have.

Also remember that readings of an MRI are just that, a reading and someone's interpretation of them. Opinions on the results can vary from one radiologist to another and from one doctor to another.

Did your Dr actually look at the MRI films or just go by the report? If the doctor didn't look at the films and read them herself, you should get another doctor. You want a spine specialist that can read the MRI pics and evaluate them him/herself and not just go on the opinion of someone else.

Have you been fully evaluated by a spine specialist, either an orthopedic surgeon that specializes in spines or a neurosurgon that specializes in spines only?

If not then you need to see one right away to evaluate you.

My right arm is very painful as well as times. Can anyone help me with any suggestions? Please! I do have an appt with a Neurologist but this waiting game is so scary!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your arm pain can be coming from cervical spine issues, but it also can be from other things. What kind of pain are you having you your arm?
Where is it located, what does the pain feel like.

Why are you being sent to a neurologist?

waiting is scary, but try not to panic.

If you can answer some of the questions or all of them, I may be able to give you more info and suggestions.


Thanks, Beth


Hope this helps and when you post with answers to my questions, I'll try and give you some more info.

Fran
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