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Controlling, Bully Husband

I need help in dealing with a very controlling and bullying husband. He in no way feels he is this way. He comes across as "acting" like he is the most perfect, smart, person alive. First let me explain his personality. He is the most talkative, social, must have all the attention, expert on everything person you would ever meet. He feels the need to "talk" to anyone and everyone when we are out. He dominates conversations, and has to tell me EVERY single detail of everything he does and says to people everyday. Yes, he can be caring, concerned, help anyone in need person but he MUST have all control over everything. He is majorly detail oriented and can pick ANYTHING apart. He comes across as trying to make everyone believe he is the most perfect person and everyone else is always totally wrong. He will go into detail about how everything "should" be run and how everything "should" be done. This attitude is exhibited with all activities he is involved in including home. So, with all this in mind - this is how me and our 3 kids are treated: Since he is a perfectionist - if things are not done to his specifications - he screams and yells and lets everyone in the house know. He CONSTANTLY nags the kids about chores, responsibilities, etc....and yes they should do them - but NEVER gives them a break. A day doesn't go by when he doesn't make our kids feel bad about something. And, for me it's a nightmare. I do nothing at all right. He is the expert on cooking, cleaning, laundry, household chores, kids school activities, etc. I cannot even put the garbage in the " garbage can correctly most of the time. He will walk in a room and find numerous things "wrong" and proceed to tell everyone. Because I am a stay at home mom - I am constantly reminded who "makes all the money" around here and who bought "everything" in this house. Just yesterday he said - "when are you going to finally respect my authority around here" He really thinks he is king of the house and we are his servants and must do and listen to everything he says. I am not allowed any opinions (thinks I'm bucking him?), he could care less about my stories - but wants me to spend hours listening to his and if I interrupt him - he snaps at me, yells, and it starts a fight. And ANYTIME we are in an arguement - he basically in so many words makes threats about throwing me out of the house or leaving. He cannot handle arguements - sees them as "threats to his authority". I have to be VERY CAREFUL about what I say because one wrong word and I'm gone. I have no job, no money, and no where to go. We live in an upper middle class neighbored where our children are very involved in activities and have lots of friends, great schools and I cannot take them from that plus I would have no where to go. I walk on egg shells everyday of my life. I really don't have a life of my own because he doesn't let me. He controls finances, our daily plans, kids activities, etc.. I cannot do anything on my own with asking his permission. (even though I do sometimes). I do play tennis 2 days a week but I can barely squeak that by without him complaining that I play too much tennis and should be home doing chores. Believe me, I don't play too much. He can't stand the thought of me playing tennis for a couple of hours and once in awhile having lunch with a friend (I don't do that everyday) while HE is working really hard making a living. It's almost like jealousy. If he is at work then I should be working. But what's funny - he at least spends two or three nights a week playing tennis with his buddies while I'm carting the kids to all their activies, cooking dinner, cleaning kitchen, and putting kids to bed. That's ok - because "he works all day and deserves this". But I don't deserve any free time at all. That's his attitude. I do try to say things to him about all this - but he is a MASTER at debate and always wins the fight (so he thinks) He has the abiltity to turn any conversation around the way he wants it to be. That is very frustrating when I am not a good conversatiionalist or quick thinker. I can never think quick enough for comebacks. I freeze up and end up saying the wrong things. He twists everything and makes it in his favor very easily. He basically has the gift of gab and can debate very easily. So how do I overcome this and try to change some of his attitudes without going to counseling or leaving? He is not 100% of the time like this but it's becoming more and more with each passing day. HELP!
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replied October 17th, 2012
My husband is also like this with me and I was hoping one one replied so I could get some advice too Sad are things better at all? I also have 3 kids and am a sahm...
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replied October 18th, 2012
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I guess your hubby got so good at repartee by sharpening his brain and his wits on you...

I am sorry for your troubles - many of which you have "allowed" to happen and have even "encouraged" by not resisting when they crept up.
The really sad thing here is he has become an appalling role model for the children who are likely to be indoctrinated into a life of serial behaviour!

Your husband's behaviour and attitudes amounts to a level of unreasonable behaviour that is probably grounds for divorce or separation. As a wholly maintained wife you could expect that to continue at least until the children finish their education and leave home and probably long afterwards.
Using unreasonable behaviour as grounds can be a minefield especially if you have been hiding his behaviour from friends, relatives and others - so don't!

Whether you want to divorce or reform your husband you must not be dishonest about anything and make certain everyone knows his slipping into obsessive-compulsive behaviour is making it almost impossible to continue living with him.

I strongly suggest you get some legal advice so you know how you would stand financially...

The solution to radical problems usually means resorting to radical methods. Your problem, and the potential damage to your children does require radical action and quickly!
As a tennis player you will know something of "gamesmanship" or the ways of cheating or gaining an advantage within the rules and that will be the best way of concentrating your husband's mind...

I feel feminism will be the best course of action - some passive resistance and some active resistance and some public humiliation for your husband - how are you at play-acting?
It is time for you to stop being one sort of role-model for your children and to become another sort!

It will take some courage at first - he could snap and resort to violence but you must not weaken and immediately call the police and have him arrested - it will be for his own good and eventually make him a better person who can accept normal human imperfections...

Record his conversations with you and replay them when friends are present: not to humiliate him but to ask for their opinion on some point or other because "you are so stupid" you didn't really understand it...
Next time he picks fault and insists on a silly amount of detail tell him to show you because "you are so stupid" or tell him to do it himself...

Make certain he knows you are going to be a rebel until he begins to treat you as an equal: go to his work and tell him in front of his colleagues.
Tell him if he continues to treat you like a maid/slave he will leave you with no choice but to wear the uniform and that will be the end of sleeping together and any sexual activities...

Keep telling him he is OCD and request he goes to therapy.

Get a job and tell him to hire a maid or wear the uniform yourself and never take it off...

Make him wear his dinner...

Put headphones on if he starts to rant...

You could find hundreds of ways to concentrate his mind: public sarcasm is good; "ask my husband, he claims to know everything"...

Refuse to become involved in conversation with him. Think about what he has said and write your answer down and present it to him several days later. Play the recording to refresh his memory...

These are the sort of tricks women have used to keep their men in order since the beginning of time...
It is possible your husband has become misguided and habit-ridden but underneath still loves you or it is possible he really has lost his love and respect for you.
You need to discover which in order to decide on your course of action. Certainly you should refuse to be anything less than your husband's equal whatever action you take, even if you need to go on strike and picket the house (which should make good local tv news)...

Good luck!
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replied December 15th, 2012
If she does some of the thins suggested above he might kill her! The strategies above are likely to make the problem worse not better. What happens when they come home after she has humilated him in front of others? He beats her, that's what. I can't imagine how difficult it is to be in this situation but 95% of the advice I read is garbage. I am sick of the victim-blaming that by not arguing with him every time he is so rude and mean to her, she is doing something wrong, clearly you didn't read what she wrote as she's tried but he refuses to listen. I think she needs to leave but she need to decide this herself, once she does he will beg and plead for her to come back (this is known as the cycle of domestic violence). There are many factors here that make this so difficult but there is help available. My advice is for her to ask someone she knows for help to move out, ask/demand that he seek counselling and start taking medication if necessary (sounds like he has mental health probelems) if he wants his family back. She does not deserve to be treated that way at all. She sounds like a wonderful wife and mother.
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replied January 11th, 2013
If you are thinking of divorce and have been a SAHM then do not get a job. He sounds just like my husband, a big fat bully. And you should tell him so when he is acting this way. Also, tell your kids to stand up to him and tell him when he is bullying them. Do not leave your marital home. If you divorce, it will reflect badly upon you and affect custody of your children. Stand up for yourself with comments like "I'll do whatever I want, when I want." Put a bikini on and get a tan in the backyard. Leave in the evening after he gets home and say you are going to the market for groceries and instead go enjoy a movie secretly or spend some private time at a book store or library. Have a meal by yourself at a restaurant. Sit at the bar and receive personal attention and conversation from the bar tender. The more time you spend away from your bully, the better you'll feel. You will clear your mind and find that you are able to quip back quickly to his put downs. Oh and never underestimate the power of humor. Sometimes simply turning his remark into a joke (sounds like you wish you were born a girl) or laughing as if you could care less about whatever he said is enough to shut him up. Make him feel stupid. And start recording your conversations and make sure he sees you doing it. That shuts bullies up too.
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