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Q: Chance of Pregnancy
asked by: macmanjeff on April 21st, 2008
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Heres me situation. Me and my gf attempted to have UNPROTECTED sex yesterday (very stupid, only because i knew i couldnt maintain an erection with a codom) . Before sex, i masturbated and pre ejaculatory fluid and what looked like semen came out while i DID NOT have an erection (very strange). After this, i urinated and washed my hands thourghly. I take Lexapro for depression, and this makes maintaing an erection and reaching ejaculation very difficult. When i finally thought i had an erection hard enough for penetration i tried to, but realized it wasnt nearly hard enough. I did not penetrate her and , just the tip of my penis touched her vagina. After this, it was a hopeless effort, and i just ejaculated on to a bag on the bed, which was nowhere near her vagina. After this, i noticed a water substancy on her vagina, and i am not sure if this is just water because my penis was wet, or possibly pre ej. fluid. I did not feel an ejaculation coming at all before i tried to penetrate her, but i am worried some could gave gotten on her. So here are the facts.

-Pre ej, fluid CAN cause pregnancy
-My penis only touched the tip of her vagina, and went not even an inch in her
-I DID NOT pentrate her and DID NOT ejaculate in her.
-I believe she had her period about 5 - 6 days before sex (unsure and will get back to you on this)
-I am unsure as to whether or not that fluid on her vagina was pre-ej. fluid

So with those circumstances in mind, assuming that the substance was pre ej. fluid, what could you tell me the chance of pregnancy is. And i am aware this IS a chance of pregnancy.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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also, after the attempt of ejaculation, i did not try to penetrate her again at all.
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Mabel
replied on April 21st, 2008
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No one can give you the exact risk of pregnancy because there are a million factors involved.

ALWAYS wear a condom. ALWAYS. It protects you both.

More than likely, the risk here is low. You shouldn't worry about this incident. However, no one can say 100%.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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oh i know the risk is very unlikey that she is pregnant...very low. She also washed her vagina out after i saw it, i have no clue as to whether it would help or not, probably not. Also, could someone explain to me when a women can be presumed fertile and infertile. Iv done a lot of reading on the whole calendar method thing (something i will never trust as a safe way of protection), but still dont understand it, can someone explain it to me.
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Mabel
replied on April 21st, 2008
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Washing your vagina after sex will not prevent pregnancy or stds.

The calendar method is NOT a reliable method of birth control. It is risky and should only be used by women who are very disciplined in the practice. That said, your girlfriend would chart her period (marking the first day on the calendar) and also checks her cervical mucous (CM) every day. Often the CM changes to the consistency of egg whites when she is fertile. But that isn't always. And women are 'fertile' a few days prior to ovulation since sperm can live for a few days inside a woman.

There is also additional ways to do this in that she takes her temperature every morning before she gets out of bed (basal body temp or BBT). She charts her temp every day. There is a spike when you ovulate. This can be figured out after she has done this for a few months and understands her body's cycle.

Now for the real basics that are NOT RELIABLE - if she usually has a 28 day cycle, she will ovulate on or around 14 days after her period.
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mvis
replied on April 21st, 2008
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It is very unlikely she is pregnant.-- But a woman has chances of getting pregnant the week before her period. On her period and the week after. Or Most likely 14 days before her period.-

Just wait until its time for her period, and if she misses it, then take a pregnancy test. They are pretty accurate.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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i see, that clears up a lot of it. Now say a girl gets her period on April 1st, is it safe to say she has probably the highesty chance of getting pregnant around April 14? If so, if she has unprotected sex on April 6th, and the sperm can stay in her for around 5 days, that would make the risk of pregnancy very high because the sperm are in her until April 11, which is extremely close to April 14?
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Mabel
replied on April 21st, 2008
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That can happen. It is unlikely in your case though, because you did not ejaculate inside of her and don't even know if you'd gotten any sperm inside her.

Your best option, as I've said before, is to always wear a condom.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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yeah man...after this crap im bout to wear a metal condom 24/7. Also, she just told
me she got her period about 3 days ago.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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hey when you say period...are you referring to when it begins, or when it ends
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Reptar
replied on April 21st, 2008
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When it begins.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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thankyou. now that iv wrote all this down i think this will make things easier.

On sunday she had her period. (1st day of cycle).
Thursday her period ended (5th day of cycle).
On sunday, pre ej. fluid could have entered her (8th day of cycle).
Sperm could be active until 12th (or is it 13?) day of the cycle. (assuming 5 days)
She ovulates on day 14 of the cycle (by this time no sperm are active)

Sorry i feel like im swamping you guys with questions, but that is the info i have gathered, and this is all based on a 28 day cycle which she says she is on. Now just some things i would like to know based on this (more or less).

-Is it likely that if the sperm are active 2 days before she ovulates she will get pregant?

Im feelin pretty good that it wont because i havent ejaculated in days before we tried it, and i hear that decreases the chances the pre ej. fluid will have a large amount of sperm And, i never inserted it, only the outer part. But i really wanna thankyou guys for this, because its great knowing people are out there willing to help
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Reptar
replied on April 21st, 2008
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You don't appear to be in any trouble. Just so you know, even if she is on a 28 day cycle, she'd also have to ovulate regularly and right at the expected time. Sperm can also be killed by soap and hot water (don't rely on this as a BC method) so most sperm don't live anywhere close up to 5 days inside her.

Really, I wouldn't sweat it. It's very unlikely that she got pregnant, but do try to be careful. All it takes is one slip-up and she can become pregnant. Sorry to hear about your situation with the anti-depressants, maybe you can talk to you doctor about getting something to help with that? Not using a condom so you can have sex is (as you know) not a good way of dealing with it, and my god, believe me, the sex is not the same when you're worried about being/getting pregnant. Good luck!
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Mabel
replied on April 21st, 2008
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I will 100% second what Reptar said about sex being WAY WAY better when there is no fear of pregnancy!

You should be just fine (and your girlfriend too) with no pregnancy. Don't take chances in the future though - let this be your lesson. Good luck in the future.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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thankyou reptar that means a lot. Currently i am on a few. Lamictal, Wellbutrin, Seroquel,Adderall and Ambien...crazy stuff it interferes with life and certainly sex, but i need to wake up everyday and not immediatly think about killing myself. Im only 16 and iv been through quite a lot, and am going through a lot when my drugs fail me. I DO NOT need the anxiety of having my gf pregnant..it just adds to the mess im in. But thankyou for your help it is greatly appreciated and i have learned a great lesson from all of this.
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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thanks guys...one more thing i am not 100% sure of.....if sperm are active up until 2 days before she ovulates, is the risk of pregnancy high? (also, what would be a realistic amount of time that sperm from pre-cum would survive if it was around her vagina, but not anywhere inside it)
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macmanjeff
replied on April 21st, 2008
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thanks...1 more thing im unsure of. If the precum was on the outside of her vagina..what would you say the chance of it getting inside her are after it was seen near the vagina but certainly not in it as normal penetration would do, and she washed it out? (i know this does not prevent pregnancy). Also, if worst came to worst, if this precum made its way to her, how long could it survive if it had previously been exposed to a lot of air and saliva. (if it were in her, how long would it realistically stay active).

Another question..If all sperm are completly inactive before a women ovulates...is the risk of pregnancy extremely low?
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Mabel
replied on April 22nd, 2008
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If the precum was on the outside, then the likelihood that any of it got inside is low. No one knows how much since not all precum contains sperm. It can.

I understand you are anxious but these are all variables that everyone faces every month of unprotected sex. Some people are trying and trying to have babies - if any of these things (how many sperm in precum? what is the risk of unprotected sex? etc) could be known, someone would have figured it out.

All of that aside, knowing what risk you have, knowing how many sperm may have been in the precum - will not change anything for you today. You need to put all these things in the back of your mind and just let it go. Whatever happened, has now happened. Take a deep breath and wait for her period. There is nothing more you can do and no more to know.
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rainstorm
replied on April 25th, 2008
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macmanjeff wrote:
thanks...1 more thing im unsure of. If the precum was on the outside of her vagina what would you say the chance of it getting inside her are after it was seen near the vagina but certainly not in it as normal penetration would do, and she washed it out? (i know this does not prevent pregnancy). Also, if worst came to worst, if this precum made its way to her, how long could it survive if it had previously been exposed to a lot of air and saliva. (if it were in her, how long would it realistically stay active).

Another question..If all sperm are completly inactive before a women ovulates...is the risk of pregnancy extremely low?


Are you sure that clear fluid you saw on her vagina wasn't from her? When women become aroused they secrete fluids, sometimes a lot of it.

Your next question was answered so I will skip to the last one about the inactive sperm... by inactive do you mean dead? Dead sperm =/= pregnancy.

If you don't mean dead, here's your answer:
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The human sperm cell is normally able to swim - propelled by a long tail called a flagellum. When sperm cannot move, they are much less likely to reach the egg. Further, when sperm are not normally motile, that is not swimming strongly, it is often a sign of being more generally impaired, and overall less likely to accomplish fertilization even if they did reach the egg.
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