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August 6th, 2016
Hi eva,
How many months we should wait for hiv2 to show positive
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replied August 7th, 2016
Anyone there please reply to me. I have been this musle and joint pain from last 20 months .
I have tested almost 20times but nothing worked.my last test was 14months ago dont known what is happening with me.
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replied August 7th, 2016
Hi ttk

sorry to hear that you have problems, well we all do. My doc told me that 3 months is enough for both hiv1 and hiv2 and that hiv2 is rare in Europe. But from my search i would say real window period for hiv2 is 1-2years. Hope it helps. Do you have any other more hiv specific symptoms like swollen lymph nodes?

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replied August 7th, 2016
1 year maximum among all the cases I can find on internet. it's on "the body".


didn't see any cases of 2 years though.
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replied August 8th, 2016
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Quick updating. I did a pcr test and will get the result on Wednesday. Pray for me fellows i pray for all of you
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replied August 8th, 2016
Hi scared,

Earlier were are very worse now i have joint pains bone pains and muscle pains. Flu it never stopped from last 20months. Can you imagine fingure joints also paining. Small spots over the body.

Hi eva,

Thanks for your reply.i will wait another 4months and will have elisa tri dot method for both hiv1 and hiv2.
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replied August 8th, 2016
Hi Nice,
I'm praying for you. Hope you'll be negative. Just dont worry. I also got an antibody test yesterday after 14 months.All the best.
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replied August 9th, 2016
Hi scared,

Nice to hear your results.All the very best and you'll find a cure for your symptoms.
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replied August 11th, 2016
hi sir i got many symptoms of hiv after 4 month of sex date. is this possible that it will be hiv?i got symptoms like skin rashes joint pain and fever from last 4 days this all symptons after 4 week . in between 4 week i had nothing i was got high fever after 2 month from sex day then after i was fine but now after 4 month i have many symptoms like fever joint pain skin rashes is this all symptoms of hiv after 4 month?

what is after 12 weeks post exposure? its mean 12 week after sex day?
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replied August 13th, 2016
Hi javed,

well seems like symptoms can be anything so i suppose you ll be fine, i have many of them too and i m negative at 6 months. Take test now if you re 4 months post exposure and it should give you some reassurance. Yes 12 weeks post exposure is 12 weeks after sex day if you were exposed in sexual contact. Just check that the test you get is at least 3rd gen, or even better 4th gen(p24). Hope you ll be fine. Praying for you all.

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replied August 23rd, 2016
hi allen

i went to pathology i got tested i do not know by which method they tested . they just took my blood and give me result after 3 hour i went agian there so my result was ready it cam negative thanx GOD. i was tested after 145 days after sex day. in between there was no any sex... so i am HIV free or i need to go again for a test i mean ELISA or any othere test. please reply. beacuse i am still felling symptoms and all like skin rashes and fever and all is nothing.. tell me thank you.

i know GOD will forgive me he will not do any wrong thing with me.
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replied August 11th, 2016
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replied August 12th, 2016
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Update. Pcr rna came negativ.antibody negative.but my blood values are too bad. Wbc is above the limit.doctrs say you have a viral infection but no diagnosis.i dont know when it will be pozitive or what kind of infection do i have.
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replied August 12th, 2016
Hi Nice,


Dont worry about that.. there are some cases which cured hiv also.just wait for some more weeks your pain will get reduces and you'll become normal person very quickly believe me your not positive.
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replied August 13th, 2016
Hi Nice,
Happy for your Negative tests. What are blood values? Can you post the numbers? Did you have a cd4 count recently? And what's your country?
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replied August 13th, 2016
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Hello scared
My wbc was 6 and now 10.5 above the limit ,rbc 6 hct 51 mpv 13.3 pdw 22.7 ne#7.4 mo#0.8 these are the ones above the limit and the others are so close to the reference values.clearly i have a viral infection but still got negative tests.i am from Turkey
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replied August 13th, 2016
Hi again,

thank you for all your prayers, praying for you all too, Nice I m happy you tested negative too, my 6 months 4th gen test was negative. My symptoms are getting worse though. Swollen spleen and liver, enlarged and painful lymph nodes, occasional mild fever, weird rash... now i really dont know whats wrong. Is there a new strain of HIV of something?

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replied August 14th, 2016
New here please need everyone's attention and help
Hey wats going on everyone. I have read every post on this forum and see that a couple of people are still here updating everyone which Is good I really appreciate it. I just can't believe 6 years with this forum and no1 came up with a solution yet. that's surprising and disappointing. Unfortunately I'm in the same situation as u guys . I have been having symptoms for 3 years now exactly. I'm married and had 2 kids before i got angry with my wife one day and went and had sex with an escort with protection she smiled and whispered yes after I ejaculated that was very fishy to me.A week later I had sore throat, skin rash on shoulder, stomache pain for a month and lost like 10 pounds. Lymph node on neck. I took a couple Elisa hivtest came back negative though I was alright so had 2 kids with my wife after symptoms and she was tested for hiv during pregnancy as well and all came back negative . Unfortunately my wife had all the the same symptoms as me as well. So up to now I tested for h. Pylori, hep c , hep b , hep a, syphlis, cytomegalovirus, chlamydia, htlv antibody all NEGATIVE. So tested with dozens of hiv oraquick negative, western blot at 6 months negative, 4th generation negative , had both pcr ran qualitive and quantitive both negative , ANA test negative, rheumatoid test negative,hiv multi spot replacement test of western blot more improved still negative, even a $500 test Abbott realtime test for rate strains negative , been getting cd4cd8 tests for a year now and they look off first time was before a year 7/22/15 cd4 948, cd8 816 , lymph cd4 39.5 cd4 /cd8 ratio 1.16, 11/7/15 cd4800, cd8 897, lymph cd4 34.8 cd4/8 ratio .89, 12/12/2016 cd4 888 , cd8 908 lymph cd4 35.4 , cd4/8 .98, 2/16/15 cd4 816, cd8 874 , cd4 lymph 35.6 , cd4/8, 6/7/2016 cd4 910, cd8 1014, cd4 lymph. 35, Cd4/8 .90,
Me and wife symptoms now
Joint pain her hips me my heels
We get sometimes wrist and elbow pain
Inside mouth ulcers a lot
We have consistent throat clearing for a year now non stop and is getting annoying doctors prescribed allergy medicine and acid reflux med and now help
Loose stool every month or so
Farting a lot
Lymph nodes once in a while
Some fatigue
No weight loss if anything weight gain
I'm experiencing hair loss
New white hair growths do both of us
In conclusion according to my cd4 cd8 test my cd8 is too high and climbing and cd4 dropping and will go back up but never to my first test which was 948 which is 910 now least hiv patient drops cd4 is 40 a year. I'm 100 percent sure I have hiv and I infected my wife and my 2 kids have them and my other 2 kids caught it too either from using wrong toothbrush or don't know exactly how , I can't believe my stupid careless actions I decided u to hear out of anger and affected me and my whole family cause my stupidity it's been so stressful for me because job effects infants more and can lead to serious health issues and death and I am so scared for them .my kids experienced my loose stools every once in a while and had couple rashes all of them as well , I pray to God everyday just make me sick and not my family for my actions. I know for a fact from everyone's symptoms and mines it has to be hiv all the symptoms go back to hiv, doctors and infectious disease doctors think I'm crazy for saying I got hiv but they got no answer for my symptoms that's crazy now. Wat if it is the NON HIV AIDS and that's y it ain't showing up in any test please people I need ur help and advice let's find a solution I can't wait till it's too late and lose my kids. if it comes down to having HIV fine I'll deal with it if I have no choice just give me and my family medicine so we can maintaine a decent life but doctors won't with no diagnosis. A cure hopefully ain't too far out the way researchers and scientists say at least 10 years . Please people I need help I beg u and I pray for all of u guys for a solution
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replied August 16th, 2016
I also sent Linda Styer an email regarding my symptoms etc. this was her reply.
I wrote Linda Styer as well and this is what she replied with...see below.


Hi Samuel,

According to the below information you have repeatedly tested negative on all HIV tests. The 3rd gen Ab and 4th gen Ag/Ab tests pick up antibodies to both HIV-1 and HIV-2 and the HIV-1 and HIV-2 RNA tests will detect actual virus. Your potential exposure was 24 years ago. There is no possibility that you are infected with HIV - either HIV-1 or HIV-2. If you are still feeling sick, ask a medical provider for help. I am not a medical doctor and cannot provide medical advice.

Sincerely,

Linda

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Linda Styer, Ph.D.
Associate Director
Bloodborne Viruses Laboratory


I have tested for HIV 1/O/ 2 negative since 1992. 5 times via standard HIV antibody test, 1 time using 4th generation ab, ag test and 1 time this past Dec 2015 via HIV 1 RNA Qualitative and HIV 2 RNA Qualitative in May 2016.

I became ill in 1992 with fatigue weight loss pain in my thighs for over a year! I tested twice in 1992 a year after any possible exposure.

I felt better after a year and slowly got my weight back. Never knew what the knocked me down. I was suspicious. I got married in 1992 while I was at the height of being sick because we loved each other and my wife was dedicated to me. I told her to go on but she refused.

OK fast forward to 2003. We are still married but I felt sick again but not too bad like before but I tested again via Labcorp HIV1/O/2 antibody test, just to make sure -negative again.

So we stop using condoms and tried for a baby. Finally we got pregnant in 2005 December. I was happy to have a son in 2006. My wife tested negative in 2006 so we are thinking we are all good.

Baby is born fine but when he turned about 4 he had a febrile seizure. Totally concerned me! I am thinking is this something related to me? I am still suspicious about my unusual illness in 1992.

He keeps having the febrile seizures everytime he gets a fever up until he is 8. Once when he was 5 he got so ill he had a fever of unknown origin for 5 days and WBC down to 1.7 and liver enzymes really high. We were scared. I am thinking is this something to do with me. Do I really have HIV? Thank God he recovers but everytime he gets a cold I shudder!!! That was 2012. I test AGAIN I was having diarrhea a for months so I was thinking ,oh this might be it. Test comes back negative but I have swolllen nodes under my armpits and neck. Still test negative.

OK since 2012 I have felt sick . Just not feeling well. In 2015 I have weight loss of 30 lbs. now although I am eating quite large amounts of food, fatigue, loose stools swollen nodes in neck armpits and groin pain in my thighs small fiber neuropathy ringing in my ears, low testosterone so I go and test again via 3rd generation antibody test - negative. In Dec 2015 I get 2 Cd4 tests done First one is (370) doctor retests a week later(420) CD8 (256) RATIO 1.6 and a HIV 1 RNA test (Negative)

In Feb 2016 I have my CD4 count done and it is (676) with a CD4/CD8 ratio of 1.2

I am still not feeling well with the same symptoms so I test again in April 2016 using 4th generation HIV 1/O/2 ag, ab test - Negative.

I test in May 2016 for HIV 2 RNA - negative.

I AM STILL FEELING SICK DAILY! I DONT KNOW WHERE TO TURN! I HAD TO STOP WORKING SINCE DECEMBER . To me all these symptoms point to advance HIV infection.

I read there are a number of people who are suffering with the similar symptoms and have read about their concern with HIV2 and that the antibody tests (3rd and 4th generation) as well as the RNA test not picking it up. Is this true?

I am way past any window period (over 24 years since any possible unprotected sexual exposure). Would these tests still be accurate? I have tested so many times at intervals (years) past the 3 or 6 month window the CDC has advised since 1992.
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replied August 16th, 2016
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Truvada.
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replied August 16th, 2016
huh? Doctors won't prescribe that unless you are testing positive.
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replied August 30th, 2016
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That is NOT true - doctors will prescribe it as Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis (abbreviated PrEP). Know your facts before you post something false.
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replied August 16th, 2016
Hey wats going on everyone. I have read every post on this forum and see that a couple of people are still here updating everyone which Is good I really appreciate it. I just can't believe 6 years with this forum and no1 came up with a solution yet. that's surprising and disappointing. Unfortunately I'm in the same situation as u guys . I have been having symptoms for 3 years now exactly. I'm married and had 2 kids before i got angry with my wife one day and went and had sex with an escort with protection she smiled and whispered yes after I ejaculated that was very fishy to me.A week later I had sore throat, skin rash on shoulder, stomache pain for a month and lost like 10 pounds. Lymph node on neck. I took a couple Elisa hivtest came back negative though I was alright so had 2 kids with my wife after symptoms and she was tested for hiv during pregnancy as well and all came back negative . Unfortunately my wife had all the the same symptoms as me as well. So up to now I tested for h. Pylori, hep c , hep b , hep a, syphlis, cytomegalovirus, chlamydia, htlv antibody all NEGATIVE. So tested with dozens of hiv oraquick negative, western blot at 6 months negative, 4th generation negative , had both pcr ran qualitive and quantitive both negative , ANA test negative, rheumatoid test negative,hiv multi spot replacement test of western blot more improved still negative, even a $500 test Abbott realtime test for rate strains negative , been getting cd4cd8 tests for a year now and they look off first time was before a year 7/22/15 cd4 948, cd8 816 , lymph cd4 39.5 cd4 /cd8 ratio 1.16, 11/7/15 cd4800, cd8 897, lymph cd4 34.8 cd4/8 ratio .89, 12/12/2016 cd4 888 , cd8 908 lymph cd4 35.4 , cd4/8 .98, 2/16/15 cd4 816, cd8 874 , cd4 lymph 35.6 , cd4/8, 6/7/2016 cd4 910, cd8 1014, cd4 lymph. 35, Cd4/8 .90,
Me and wife symptoms now
Joint pain her hips me my heels
We get sometimes wrist and elbow pain
Inside mouth ulcers a lot
We have consistent throat clearing for a year now non stop and is getting annoying doctors prescribed allergy medicine and acid reflux med and now help
Loose stool every month or so
Farting a lot
Lymph nodes once in a while
Some fatigue
No weight loss if anything weight gain
I'm experiencing hair loss
New white hair growths do both of us
In conclusion according to my cd4 cd8 test my cd8 is too high and climbing and cd4 dropping and will go back up but never to my first test which was 948 which is 910 now least hiv patient drops cd4 is 40 a year. I'm 100 percent sure I have hiv and I infected my wife and my 2 kids have them and my other 2 kids caught it too either from using wrong toothbrush or don't know exactly how , I can't believe my stupid careless actions I decided u to hear out of anger and affected me and my whole family cause my stupidity it's been so stressful for me because job effects infants more and can lead to serious health issues and death and I am so scared for them .my kids experienced my loose stools every once in a while and had couple rashes all of them as well , I pray to God everyday just make me sick and not my family for my actions. I know for a fact from everyone's symptoms and mines it has to be hiv all the symptoms go back to hiv, doctors and infectious disease doctors think I'm crazy for saying I got hiv but they got no answer for my symptoms that's crazy now. Wat if it is the NON HIV AIDS and that's y it ain't showing up in any test please people I need ur help and advice let's find a solution I can't wait till it's too late and lose my kids. if it comes down to having HIV fine I'll deal with it if I have no choice just give me and my family medicine so we can maintaine a decent life but doctors won't with no diagnosis. A cure hopefully ain't too far out the way researchers and scientists say at least 10 years . Please people I need help I beg u and I pray for all of u guys for a solution
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replied August 20th, 2016
HI, I am in the same situation, I had protected sex but still showing symptoms, but the longest window period I can found on the internet is 1 year, so don't let this bother you so much, ok?

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replied August 21st, 2016
Hii gotserved,
1) When was the last time you got tested after exposure? 2) Are you still getting new lymph nodes?
3) Are lymph nodes limited to neck only or any other areas?
4) In which country was your exposure?
I think you're negative but you still have to get to the root cause of this. We are all suffering from something. All we have with us is this support.
It makes me very happy when I see nicelscu or sickallen or eva1777 posting their results and I think they feel the same. I'll pray for you. Dont worry my friend. May god bless you.
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replied August 21st, 2016
some answers
I hope this post will be of huge help to all of you. I am admin on another forum that contains many people with this illness. Recently one of our posters just sent exactly the same story we have all experienced...but, with some very interesting findings.

Thanks to him, we all now strongly believe that this is Lyme disease. Check it out...it causes every single one of these odd symptoms, specifically cracking joints, dehydration, wrinkled skin, red eyes, stomach issues, rashes, night sweats, dental issues etc.

Lab tests for Lyme are very unreliable and many commercial tests return false negatives. Therefore people are testing in foreign labs like Armin and ignenex. After treatment people are getting better, but it is a long and complicated road ahead...one of antibiotics and also alternative treatments. And yes, Lyme is transmitted sexually, despite what the CDC says. Just look up the scientific studies - found in semen and can be passed from animal to animal. Many lyme docs refer to the illness as the 'bacterial HIV'.

Alternatively keep questioning your negative HIV tests and forming other theories. But it will get you nowhere.

I cannot post the other forum name due to restrictions. But you'll find it if you look hard enough.

Peace, out.
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replied September 6th, 2016
well i just got my 15 months hiv negative test just to be extra sure. i wish you guys all the best you all are hiv negative if you tested past 3 months window period .
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