I used to work in a hospital. Pharm
companies would come in & sponsor a
nice catered lunch. A physician would
arrive and provide a 20-30 minute talk on
the properties of the drug. The
physicians were paid thousands of dollars
for this service. One was paid $5000 for
a 20 minute talk.
The dispensaries stock the medications and
prescriptions increase. Pharm companies
sponsor vacations, outings, special
events, etc. and people are rewarded
handsomely for their patronage.
There were programs such as 'prescribe X
amount, get a trip to Y'.
It's not the interest of the goodwill of
humanity pharmaceutical companies are
developed and drugs are marketed. It is
about lining the pocketbook.
That is the reality, and I would not trust
my health to someone looking to spend a
weekend in Aruba.
WW: Once people become informed, if for
whatever reason they still choose to make
poor decisions, then that is on them. And
yes, the industry is more than happy be
there for those people who place
themselves at its mercy. But when
patients are purposely kept in the dark
about better alternatives (safer, more
effective, & far less expensive), and
are fed medical propaganda for the sake of
profit then that is EVIL. Everyone has a
right to hear the truth, at least once!
And concerning transplants, much of the
need for transplants is the result of
organs (i.e., liver & kidneys) that
have been ruined because of the harsh
effects of sulfa drugs & other
synthetic, unnatural, 'prescription' meds!
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worrywart01
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Posted: 08-21-08 21:29pm
urine is therapeutic??? are you serious?
would someone please take one minute to
explain to me how something that is
purposely EXPELLED from your body..meaning
your body didn't need it(otherwise the
complicated urinary system would have
saved it..as it already does through the
process of urine production) can be
therapeutic?? If your body needs it..it
will save it..it happens in the process of
making the urine...which is complicated
and i'd rather not get into it
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worrywart01
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Posted: 08-21-08 21:37pm
so...do you believe in vaccinations or are
those evil too? think how far medicine has
come through the years and how many lives
have been saved because of it and how many
diseases have been prevented..yes money is
always an issue yes people want to make
money but not everyone is "evil" as you
say and will prescribe something just for
a vacation...and yet again my question
goes unanswered...
lets say you're diagnosed with cancer
tomorrow..you certainly wouldn't be going
to the evil money sucking doctors for a
word of wisdom...pffftt NOOOO 8 years of
schooling but what do they know! they've
been brainwashed by money....so...what do
you do tobeyjoe...what would you prescribe
yourself? and what happens when you're in
agonizing pain...??? no tylenol for
you...no no...bc that isn't natural...so
what do you do? smoke some weed or
something? thats natural right?
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Beline
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Posted: 08-22-08 02:28am
About two or three years ago my daughter
had a cold which affected her left eye.
When I took her to the doctor, he
prescribed eye drops that cost me R98.00
for 5ml!!! That’s a teaspoon full.
Twenty four hours later it was cleared up.
Later a reflexologist told me to just put
a drop of breast milk in her eye the next
time it happens. When I later told the
doctor this he admitted that he knew about
this.
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tobyjoe
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Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Joplin, Missouri USA
If I need healing, I will have to be very
desperate to seek it through unnatural
means. But I have no interest in any
"therapy" which is worse than the disease
itself!
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-24-08 09:58am
I think we only need to watch the
discovery health channel to realize that
medicine is important unless you are okay
with dying sooner. Yes pharmas work by
money but so does everybody. It's how the
economy works. What they need to do is
deliver good products. The better the
product the better the profit. Even this
website, they are not doing charity here.
The owner gets paid by everytime you click
on any of the ads. The more people in site
the higher they can charge for ads. All
the banners have a price. If the link
drives you to a store they will get profit
of the sale. Is this bad? No, they are
delivering a good product, a good health
forum so they deserve the profit. And this
exactly how pharmas work.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-24-08 12:16pm
worrywart01
wrote:
urine is therapeutic??? are
you serious? would someone please take one
minute to explain to me how something that
is purposely EXPELLED from your
body..meaning your body didn't need
it(otherwise the complicated urinary
system would have saved it..as it already
does through the process of urine
production) can be therapeutic?? If your
body needs it..it will save it..it happens
in the process of making the urine...which
is complicated and i'd rather not get into
it
so...do you believe in
vaccinations or are those evil too? think
how far medicine has come through the
years and how many lives have been saved
because of it and how many diseases have
been prevented..yes money is always an
issue yes people want to make money but
not everyone is "evil" as you say and will
prescribe something just for a
vacation...and yet again my question goes
unanswered...
lets say you're diagnosed with cancer
tomorrow..you certainly wouldn't be going
to the evil money sucking doctors for a
word of wisdom...pffftt NOOOO 8 years of
schooling but what do they know! they've
been brainwashed by money....so...what do
you do tobeyjoe...what would you prescribe
yourself? and what happens when you're in
agonizing pain...??? no tylenol for
you...no no...bc that isn't natural...so
what do you do? smoke some weed or
something? thats natural
right?
There is a reason they are called
"practicing" physicians. Doctors are not
omnipotent, and in this information age
one is capable of looking up the same
information they have.
Tobyjoe, have you heard about the benefits
of a raw diet?
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-24-08 21:27pm
Birch
wrote:
worrywart01
wrote:
urine is therapeutic??? are
you serious? would someone please take one
minute to explain to me how something that
is purposely EXPELLED from your
body..meaning your body didn't need
it(otherwise the complicated urinary
system would have saved it..as it already
does through the process of urine
production) can be therapeutic?? If your
body needs it..it will save it..it happens
in the process of making the urine...which
is complicated and i'd rather not get into
it
"Individuals have reported that drinking
or injecting urine or applying it directly
to the skin is safe and not linked to any
harmful side effects, but the safety of
these practices has not been established
by scientific studies. There have been
reports of nausea, vomiting, upset
stomach, and diarrhea after drinking
one’s own urine, especially during the
first few days.
Relying on this type of treatment alone,
and avoiding or delaying conventional
medical care, may have serious health
consequences."
This is the final conclusion of that
article.
Birch it's like the red yeast rice story
and cholesterol. They discovered that red
yeast rice contains "statins" and that's
why it was lowering cholesterol in
patients taking it. What happened? Now red
yeast rice production in supplements has
been modified to be "statin-free" so that
statins are only controlled by the pharma
drug companies. What concerned the
medical world was what if someone takes
more red yeast rice than he should and
overdose on the amount of statins?
Wouldn't it be better to be able to
control the amount of statins you are
taking? Just food for thought. I thought
it was interesting as I have to deal with
hereditary high blood cholesterol (meaning
even if I eat perfect diet I still have to
deal with high cholesterol).
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worrywart01
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Posted: 08-30-08 10:35am
haha ok..there is absolutely nothing..that
is going to convince me that drinking your
urine is beneficial..so the next time you
go to the bathroom to take a crap u gonna
eat that too?? bc thats "natural" waste
that your body doesn't need
..though I would imagine lots of bacteria
would be in that...still..my point is..if
your body needed whatever was in your
urine..you wouldn't have produced the
urine..read up on the urinary system, the
urine is filtered through your body..the
goods are absorbed and what your body
doesn't need is expelled... and very well
put nightangel i agree...now..if you
people want to drink your urine and
such...have fun..i on the other hand
prefer to flush it as waste...which is why
my body made it urine...and I will say
that physicians have been in school MANY
MANY years and have dedicated their life
to this so called "practice"...they know
way more than the average person...but
theres no convincing you people...so i'm
guessing those of you saying drugs and
doctors are evil and such dont take
tylenol? did you know that bayer has
helped in preventing heart attacks sinch
it is a blood thinner? but go ahead..have
your heart attack...if a doctor prescribes
me something..yes I may ask questions..its
YOUR responsibility to stay informed and
ask these questions...
can I ask you how you feel about
penicillan? that was a MAJOR breakthrough
in medicine for its time...would you have
not taken it when back in the day that was
used in many cures? NO..how silly of
me..you would have just grown your own
culture right?
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Durzan
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Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 1
Posted: 09-08-08 23:49pm
I figure that it can probably be cured
with genetic engineering. Take the section
of DNA from a bacteria that can disguise
itself from your white blood cells by
giving off the signal of a normal body
cell and place it in the DNA structure of
uneffected T-cells, then grow those new
cells and inject them in the body and let
them go to work. Maybe they can hide
themselves as red blood cells or
something.
Just an idea
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worrywart01
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Posted: 09-09-08 01:03am
but HIV is not a bacteria..its a
retrovirus that directly effects the
immune system...these "signals" you speak
of, i think you're referring to the
receptors? i think you would somehow have
to alter the cell receptor to prevent the
virus from attaching..i dont understand
the part where you said they can hide
themselves as red blood cells...i dont get
how that would be possible
..though I would imagine lots of bacteria
would be in that...still..my point is..if
your body needed whatever was in your
urine..you wouldn't have produced the
urine..read up on the urinary system, the
urine is filtered through your body..the
goods are absorbed and what your body
doesn't need is expelled... and very well
put nightangel i agree...now..if you
people want to drink your urine and
such...have fun..i on the other hand
prefer to flush it as waste...which is why
my body made it urine...and I will say
that physicians have been in school MANY
MANY years and have dedicated their life
to this so called "practice"...they know
way more than the average person...but
theres no convincing you people...so i'm
guessing those of you saying drugs and
doctors are evil and such dont take
tylenol? did you know that bayer has
helped in preventing heart attacks sinch
it is a blood thinner? but go ahead..have
your heart attack...if a doctor prescribes
me something..yes I may ask questions..its
YOUR responsibility to stay informed and
ask these questions...