Thank you for the site. I am prolife and work in a pharmacy. I understand that bc does not cause abortion unless taken in great quantities. I hope others will look at the site and see what I've learned. (I did not go look at the site but am sure it gives great info)

Annie,

I just wanted to say that you are on of the few pro-lifers whom I respect.
Too many pro-lifers go looking for propaganda in which to believe, like the lie about bc causing abortions.

You are rational and honest, because you truly want to reduce unwanted pregnancies which will in turn mean fewer abortions. Many pro-lifers want people to have less sex MORE than they want fewer abortions.

Thank you! No I do not believe in abortions in many many circumstances almost never BUT like you said I truly want people to be more educated and safer when it comes to sex. Not just for fewer abortions but fewer of everything that can happen from having sex. Hey I do understand things happen remember I had my first child at 18. It's a way of life but I truly want to reduce everything as I said before and the only way that will happen is more and better education. I don't care at what age, it needs to be there!

Thank you again for your comment it means alot since alot of the time on this others try to put you down. It's nice to have a comment like that!

Anniek to alot of pro-life they feel life starts before conception and depending on the person it can almost be seen as right.

If sperm and eggs are life you are stopping a process that can potentially happen, I love how it is phrased but then religion is a guideline and a life choice but too may of them take it as a life-choice.

I think they need to stop the abstinence programs and be realistic, okay it can be promoted but if I remember being a teenager we were very rebellious, some anyway. I also feel that woman should stopped being blamed for something that it takes two people to do and think they should focus on contraceptive more so for men, would be a grand idea if they could out with a pill for men.

Great points, diamondsz.

I feel life begins before conception, and I'm pro-choice. However, a UNIQUE being does not come into existence until fertilization. Pregnancy does not happen until implantation.

I agree with you as well to a certain degree, I want your view on this if you dont mind sharing.

Aborting to me to stop something before it happens so if you are stopping it by not having sex/stopping a potential pregnancy from happening would it not be aborting?

If sperm and eggs are alive (maybe this is a little out there) then by jerking off wouldnt that mean that you stopped it lol.

Pregnancy is actual not a natural occurence the human body tries to reject it therefore hormones come into place to protect except of the cases of the mother being RH- blood type and the father RH then her body tries to kill it or rid of it.

Technically you are correct, because to abort means to end a process before its completion.

I agree that life begins before conception; everything involved in the process has been alive since the Beginning.

Everything on our planet is natural. Yes, humans, and yes, our buildings and constructs. Nature can't produce anything but nature. This doesn't give us a right to rampantly destroy everything though, because even a virus must adapt, or it kills the host and then it dies as well. If a virus can figure that out, so can humans.

Although the body does attempt to reject the pregnancy (I'm well aware that HCG is the hormone secreted by the embryo to protect it) this is how EVOLUTION has designed our bodies to reproduce. If you consider our process of reproduction to be "unnatural", then every single creature on this planet that reproduces sexually is "unnatural", which you must admit is quite a silly concept.

I think it is a serious flaw to view our process of reproduction as "unnatural", it lends towards dehumanizing the unborn and considering it nothing but a parasite, a cancer, that must be removed from the body. That kind of hate really disturbs me.

Well if a woman is RH- blood type and the father is then the body will reject liek it is a sickness or do you not understand the fundamental of the body and natural occurences.

On another note the fetus can be compared to parasite whether we like it or not, hote or none hate. Fact vs fiction a parasite needs a host to feed off in order to survive or to grow a fetus shares similar characteristics so whether I like the word parasite or not, which I really dont but hey can you say they dont with proof?

The body needs to produce hormones in order for the pregnancy to continue if the hormones aren't high enough your body will abort it naturally, the pregnancy can only happen with HCG normally we dont have it unless pregnant.

as per Aochriss if you havent read her article that she provided IVF is an unnatural way for pregnancy but has been reserached and proved healthier explain that!

Excuse me? We were not talking about RH compatibility. For your information I also know about this and in many cases there are medications women can take to help their bodies accept the embryo. Being RH incompatible is a part of life. Life is natural. Everything is natural. Is it sometimes unfortunate? Yes.

Do not assume I am not intelligent or imply I do know something when you have no way of knowing if I do or not. A far more polite way to discuss this would have been to ASK me if I knew about RH compatibility issues. Do I know a lot? No; I know it happens, I know there are medications that can be used to help these women conceive, and I know there are some cases where it is impossible. I know far more than "nothing".

It seems you are picking up bad habits from other posters on this site...


I'm aware of that and have stated such many times. However, my opinion that to call it a parasite - and really, truly mean it - reflects hate on the part of the speaker is my own to have and I will retain such an opinion until proven otherwise. The parasite issue is closed in my opinion. Call it a parasite all day long; I will bring humanity back to the pro-choice debate by calling it a baby.



You may have missed something I wrote in my post: I consider every human activity to be "natural", and that includes IVF. We are natural. We come from nature. Have we created some amazing adaptations? Of course we have.

Also, I fail to see how IVF is healthier when multiple pregnancies are far from healthy, resulting in premature births, low birth weight, and maternal complications including the inability to give birth vaginally. That said, go ahead and stop having sex to conceive Abstain; don't want to shake around those embryos, do you? I don't see that happening any time soon.

Anyway, it is entirely possible that IVF is healthier... but for whom? The unborn, or the mother? Both? I read the link a while back and don't remember anything in it about IVF. It is about contraceptive devices, not conception devices.

If you go on and on about the wonders of IVF, pretty soon you'll start sounding like someone out of Brave New World or closer yet, Gattica. Good movie, by the way. Babies conceived the "natural" way are considered second-rate citizens; they can't get good jobs because of their genetic "flaws", etc.

Humanity, no one ever said that it is not human much less to say it isn't alive but if they share the same/twin the characteristics of a parasite then how can someone be wrong,flawed or even have hate issues for feeling so.

To view our process of reproduction s unnatural is wrong/unintelligent? If everyone has different views and no one shares the same how can anyone be wrong?



unintelligent no, everyone has their own strengths and weakness but I dont appreciate the thought of people with different views shouldn't be considered flawed.

Is it really a natural occurence and who said it was? Is it scientific or is it merely evolution? Depending on the person you will get a different answer. I believe sex is recreational therefore to many it is considered unnatural.

I don't understand that sentence, I'm sorry. If "they" share the same characteristics? Who are they? What characteristics?


Yes it is in my belief. What, just because YOUR opinion is different from mine, I'm not allowed to express it? Yes, people can be wrong. You notice I said "I think"?


Well too bad, because that's MY opinion and I'm allowed to express it.


I don't understand again. "Merely evolution" is a contradiction of terms. Nothing is "merely" evolution. And furthermore, evolution IS science, science is a part of evolution. Our development of our understanding of science has evolved. They are the same thing.

And yes, once again, from the way I view things, it is indeed 100% natural.


Again, you're pretty much just asking me right now, and it's my opinion that everything in this universe is natural.