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Q: Been dumped for a homeless person
asked by: AndrewO on May 5th, 2008
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Some history:

The love of my life, let's call her Tina, and I met in high school during our sophomore year. She was a seriously disturbed person, dressed all Goth with white face paint and black lipstick with Goth clothes, but the first time I met her I knew I found my purpose. I saw something in her eyes that very first time we met that told me she was hiding under all of that Goth stuff. We talked a few times, and she was totally into me. After a few weeks, I learned some more things about her, including her being adopted as a baby, her sexual abuse as a child, and her occasional visits to psychiatric clinics. She was/is a cutter, and has Borderline Personality Disorder with Psychosis, so she hallucinates at times but knows that they are hallucinations. Her poor vision doesn't help that any.

The more I spoke to her and the better I got to know her, the more I felt a connection, unlike any other I have felt with other girlfriends. In fact, she was 100% different than any other girl I had been with. I got attached to her, she got attached to me. My past is completely different from hers, as I have been in a stable home my whole life.

Well, she had to leave that same school year to go to Montana. We weren't officially a couple, so seeing her go could have been worse. I waited 2 long, hard years for her return, and not once did I have any communication from her, because her parents wanted her to be completely isolated from the world while in that behavioral health center. There were times I thought I would see her, and would jump out of my skin in excitement, then quickly recover when I knew it wasn't her. This happened about once a month.

Then one day, I was just kicking it at the mall, and there she was. I jumped out of my skin again, but this time, I didn't recover because I knew it was her. I ran up to her, said "hey" and she jumped out of her skin in excitement! We exchanged phone numbers, and began chatting again. After about a month, she told me she had feelings for me and I was like "well duh we have feelings for each other". She asked if I had any girlfriends while she was gone and I said "of course not", which was true. Our relationship progressed into kissing, and I told her that we didn't have to have sex if she didn't want to and a month later, we decided to have our first sex together. It was unreal. It was a connection I have never had with any other person, even though I have had sex with the other 4 girlfriends I had before her. In fact, all other relationships I had seemed completely trivial compared to what I was experiencing. It was perfect in every sense. I had devoted myself to her from the first time I met her, and at that point and time when things started getting physical, it seemed like the right thing. It's hard to describe.

Well, another few months went by and we decided to move into a friend's house so we could be together. Well, that was good but bad because that place was stressful as all heck being in someone else's house. Well, we stayed there for a little over 3 years, and during that time, the stress was getting to both of us. She began acting strangely, and I helped her through it. She would go up and down with her instability (as most people with Borderline do). She would go into these states of, well, like a dream world, and her judgment was totally impaired. She had cheated on me multiple times, but after doing so, she felt horrified because to her, it was a bad dream and her brain was trying desperately to "wake up" . I never held those incidents against her.

We got married on February 8th, and didn't even get around to having her name changed yet. Things were awesome, and she was as happy as I was.

But then it started to get worse. She would leave at night and go to the nearby park where homeless people hang out at night, and do sexual things with them. Of course, she was all out of it and again, horrified each time. We tried so many different meds and were trying to get her into a specialized program for Borderline Personality Disorder. Her runs to the park then became her reality, and she started enjoying it and feeling less bad about it each time.


The real issue here:


3 days ago she met a homeless hispanic guy. She left to go to her friend's house and never came home that night. I filed a missing person report. I was so scared for her safety, I walked that park until my feet were totally blistered. I got about 2 hours of sleep the other night, and then went out and started again. This time, I came prepared. I brought with me $40 bucks as payment to any bum who can tell me where she is and who she's with. Well, after most of the day of doing that (this was yesterday), I finally got a solid lead, that was backed up by another bum's info, and paid the bum the $40. I almost never came across this person, because just before I gave up, completely gave up and was starting to go home, something told me to fight the pain of the blisters, fight the fatigue and hunger, and go the other end of the park for one last time to ask around again. This time, a female bum called me over and told me where she is.

The info was she was staying with a hispanic bum in one of 3 locations, all of which are in close proximity. One of 2 motels right next to each other (there goes my imagination all fired up, thinking about the awful sexual things going on without condoms). I drove down there (not to far from where I live) and began the investigation again. No luck. I drove around a few times during different parts of the day with no luck at all. I gave up, went to my mom's house, and cried like a baby to her about what happened, something I have never done.

Today, after finally getting some food and sleep, I drove down to those 3 locations. I drove around for a few hours, and just as I was about to give up again, something told me to fight it through. To fight and fight the hunger, the emotional pain, and focus on finding her. Well, I turned a corner to head down the side way to the apartments (the 3rd location a quarter of a block away from the motels), and there they were sitting and smoking cigarettes (something she hates doing). I slammed on the brakes while pulling to the curb, threw it in park, and bailed like a Cop after a fugitive. I thought this whole thing was another one of her outrageous park incidents on steroids (she hasn't had her meds in about a week), and I called the cops. They showed up, and asked her some questions. Now, I could tell she was all dazed and out of it, and she was saying things like "I love this man so much, I need him like I need air and water", which were things she would say about me. The cops showed, asked some questions, and pretty much said "it's her choice". Well it is, but her judgment is so screwed. The really horrible thing is she is repeating exactly what her mother had done, her real mother, and she is starting to fade into the same darkness that her mother went through. What also scares me is she says he wants her to have his kid. A homeless man she just barely met 3 days ago. With her birth control though, that hopefully won't happen (she doesn't want kids at all) She isn't doing any drugs like her mom did, but she is continuing a cycle I swore an oath to stop. I had swore a silent oath to her mother (who died of a stomach infection I believe, because of heroin), that I would not let her daughter follow the same destructive path, but with Tina saying that she wants a divorce and all that, I am pretty much unable to change her mind at this point. At least I know where they are staying, and she has agreed to keep her cell phone charged and powered on so I can check up on her.

After I calmed down, I talked to her, saying that as before, I would take care of her. I will be providing her medications, driving her to doctor visits, and making DAMN sure she has her birth control. I will also continue to make sure she gets her SSI money and make sure her cell phone bill gets paid. I told her that even though she may decide to live on the streets with that bum (although he is a pretty clean looking bum, and about 25 years old), that I will ALWAYS be there for her, and she will always have a place to come to if he gets arrested again (he's on parole for theft), and that I will not hook up with another woman. I am 100% for her, and not interested in anyone else (of course, if her situation becomes permanent, I will end up finding someone else but will always have a big place in my heart for her. Heck, I waited 2 years for her before, I could easily do it again). She told me "you can go ahead and hook up with someone else" and under her breath but loudly, as she usually does when trying to make a point, she said "but that would break my heart". I can tell she still has feelings for me, and she knows how dedicated I am to her, even though she has cheated, and has ran away with this homeless dude.

I am hoping that this is one of her crazy Borderline Personality mess-ups and that she will come to her senses now that I have given her the medication she needs, but for Pete's sake, I hope he doesn't plant a parasite in her belly.

I feel like utter crap because I have swore to put as much effort as I can into taking care of her, and swore to her dead mother that I would not let her end up on the streets, and I am feeling like I have failed. I have NEVER given up, and I NEVER will. This has been a 7 year mission that I refuse to give up on. Even if it takes 2 weeks, or 2 months, or 2 years for her situation to become that of her needing to live with me, I will wait but at the same time I will be taking care of her where she is at and making sure she is clothed, fed, and has her birth control and meds. I will NOT find another woman, as my dedication to her is stronger than that of wanting to be with someone, in other words I am not afraid to be alone. Even if she has his kid and she ends up leaving him or he goes to prison again, I will take her back. Sure, it will be the spawn of some homeless person, but at the same time it will be half Tina.

Tina has told me on hundreds of occasions that no matter what happens, she will always come back to me. We told each other that our hearts are together for life, even if we are apart, and I believe it. I can see in her eyes when she is standing next to him the same look I saw all those years ago, that she is lost, trapped in this shell she has made for herself, and that she wants out. I'm not trying to "beat a dead horse" because the horse is not dead, it is simply trapped in a hole. It will be up to her to reach up for help, and I intend to be there as I always have been when she needs it.

I am not trying to be this "knight in shining armor" in order to win her back, and I am not craving her affection or needing to be "wanted" or "needed" because taking care of her has been my goal since the first time we met. Her adoptive parents have given up on her, her friends have given up on her, even some counselors have given up on her. I refuse to give up like so many others have. I have chosen to take care of her no matter what, and love her no matter what, even if she ended up on the streets. I am doing this not only for her, but for her mother who right now, wherever she is, is likely completely heartbroken. I'm not going to run myself ragged worrying about her or thinking about her having sex with another man, because this is more than about sex. It's her life I am concerned about. One of the things I am certainly thankful for is that she wants my help, and is extremely thankful for me helping her. She is not refusing to see me, in fact, she wants to still have me visit her. I am very glad that she hasn't gone so far off the deep end that she doesn't recognize proper help when she sees it, and that she still wants to have contact with me.

Sure, this is one wild ride, but it's far from over and no matter how bumpy, how high or how low, I have the strength to hang on. If she decides that she wants to completely break away from me, with no communication at all and wants absolutely nothing to do with me, then I can lay the matter to rest, ask her mother for forgiveness, and move on. Until then, I am always open to her coming back.
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eeyore46
replied on May 6th, 2008
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I really don't know the right words. I have just always believed that everything happens for a reason. Yes, this is hurting you, but making you a stronger person. This is a strong pattern that she portrays. Even if she does come back, she will leave again, again, again, etc - how will you ever be able to have trust in a relationship like this. Don't let someone use your kindness until the next time she decides to leave. You can't put your life on hold. It is obvious that she does not love you, as hard as that may be to hear, find someone who appreciates you and cut all ties with her. I know that is very hard to do when you think you love someone, but from what I have read, this is going to happen the rest of your life unless you cut off all communication with her. You are a very loving person, and there is someone out there who needs you and will respect that. My brother and son have gone through very serious relationships that hurt the whole family. We thought they would never be strong enough to end them. They finally saw what we were seeing all along and ended the relationships, and both are happier now than I have ever seen them. BE STRONG - TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS!
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AndrewO
replied on May 6th, 2008
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I can't fail her though. I can't let her fall into that same cycle that her mother and her mother's mother went through. This force that is driving me has allowed me to help her even though she has made some strange mistakes. I don't want to enable her, but at the same time, I need to be there for her. I can't see myself being with someone, because I would always be haunted by me leaving her to rot and to continue the cycle.

Sure, I can simply walk away and sever all ties, but the thought of where she is, if she is alive, if she is living on the streets getting pregnant and giving her kids up for adoption, just like her mom and grandma did. She is that someone that deserves my love, regardless of what happens.

Like I said, if she decides to sever all ties then I will have no choice, but I am not afraid to live a life with her, even if mistakes happen. I feel that my strength as a person is being tested not just for me, but for my commitment to her. I feel pain, but not weakness. Pain itself will make me stronger for her. She needs that. Without that, she will have nothing to fall back on.
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Questions4u
replied on May 6th, 2008
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I think you answered you own problems in the first few sentences.

"She was a seriously disturbed person"

Yet you're surprised and phased by the fact that she left you for a homeless man?
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eeyore46
replied on May 6th, 2008
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You are not failing her, she is choosing this lifestyle. It appears she is already in that cycle and no one can help her, but herself. SHE is going to have to make that decision. Again, you are not leaving her to rot, she chose to leave you. With the lifestyle she is living, she could already be pregnant, have STD's, HIV/Aids etc. etc. It sounds like you have done everything you can to help her and she refuses. I do not believe she will ever sever all ties, who would, she knows you will always be there to help her out. One day, sure she will show up when she needs something, then she will break your heart again. Believe me, I have seen this over and over and over again. It breaks my heart because of what you are going through. There is no pain like a broken heart. I agree, you are a strong person and will only become stronger because of what you are going through. I just want you to be happy and find someone who will share the same love for you that you are willing to give. How old are you?
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Sinniebunnie
replied on May 7th, 2008
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I hope one day you can find closure either her coming back or you moving on. If she comes back this may happen again, can you emotionally hand that? Would it be better to lay the issue to rest and help yourself?
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Questions4u
replied on May 7th, 2008
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the intelligent thing to do would be moving on without looking back...or you may want to ask yourself what's wrong with you as well. its pretty disturbing that a person would leave someone else to be with a homeless person and live that lifestyle......but what does it say for the person that wants to still be with a disturbed person who left them for a homeless person?
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Beline
replied on May 7th, 2008
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Andrew, I implore you not to pay any attention to any negative input. You came here to vent and to get some support and advice. Eeyore, Sinniebunny and I will try and help you as far as we can.

I believe she is acting this way because her medication is failing her, and not you as her devoted husband. Maybe if she takes her medication again she will have a moment of clarity, and will come back to you. Should this happen, you will be able to take her back to the doctor and just explain what happened. I’m sure he will be able to prescribe new medication.
You are an amazing person whom loves unconditionally, and that is admirable. I think her mother is very grateful that your paths crossed, and I’m sure that she understands what both you and her daughter is going through at the moment. But I’m glad that you don’t see this as a binding promise. You can do what you can, and no more. If she doesn’t come back, don’t feel obliged to take care of her because of what you promised her mother.
Whenever I post a reply I always try to put myself in the original poster’s shoes, and to tell you the honest to God truth: I can’t even fathom what you are going through at the moment. There are no guarantees that she will come back, and if she does, there are no guarantees that she will stay.
Good luck.
You are in my prayers.
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eeyore46
replied on May 7th, 2008
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Beline is exactly right in her comments. Just take care of yourself. As the saying goes, life experiences make you stronger, but in some cases, it also could cause you to become severly depressed/anxious without you even realizing it until it happens. You have to take care of yourself first. As Beline said, we can't even imagine what you are going through. But..............we are trying and hope our words can help and do not hurt. As you have said, this seems to be an inheritated pattern she has, so it is going to be rough for her to overcome, if ever. I admire you for all you have done and again, my heart goes out to you.
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AndrewO
replied on May 7th, 2008
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eeyore46 wrote:
How old are you?


22. I have been through 5 girlfriends before her, 3 of which were either starting to get serious or were serious. I am not totally inexperienced or anything and I have paid very close attention to my friend's and family's relationships and learned from their mistakes, and sure, I have a long life ahead of me, but this commitment is not only stronger than that of being with a girlfriend, but it's kid of different. Almost a different context.

On top of what is going on, it turns out that she now has Melanoma, and she is at the hospital getting it checked out.

Yeah as I said before, this experience won't make me give up, and I am not going to, but the pain of it all has strengthened me time and time again. The more things that happen, the more I learn and the better I help her. This is just one of those cases where I have to stick my commitment, even though the circumstances have her on the streets.

As for STD's/HIV, it wouldn't bother me if we didn't have sex or were forced to use condoms. What would bother me is the illnesses themselves, and I would do my damnedest to see that she gets proper medical care for it. Her mother died because of lack of medical care, as did her grandmother, because of their living situation. As long as I do what I can to be sure she is medically taken care of (like giver her a ride to the hospital when needed, make sure her prescriptions are filled, etc).

If they decide to try and get an apartment with the SSI money she has ($600 a month, not much at all), I will help her out as much as I can financially. I don't care if she is living with another man in that situation, I just want to be sure she is taken care of.
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eeyore46
replied on May 7th, 2008
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Yes, you have to do what you feel is right. Nobody can change your feelings at this point. I hope that things work out for you, but don't forget about YOUR health and finances along the way. I know you promised her mother that you would take care of her, but think of YOUR mother and what she is going through right now. Again, take care and keep in touch with the forum.
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AndrewO
replied on May 7th, 2008
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eeyore46 wrote:
I know you promised her mother that you would take care of her, but think of YOUR mother and what she is going through right now.


My mother, who is still alive, is worried sick about her as well. My mom had really come to like Tina, and everyone in my family have long since accepted Tina as family, so everyone is concerned. My mom has been telling me to eat more, but for some reason I can't. I sleep OK (between 6 and 7 hours a night), but I can't seem to eat more than like a few handfuls of breakfast cereal a day, but I do drink water. For some reason, I feel the hunger, but I can't eat. Either I start to eat and gag, or I just don't have the urge to eat. My tummy is killing me but my brain won't let me eat.

Hey, at least I am eating something, even if it's just a few handfuls of cereal.
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eeyore46
replied on May 7th, 2008
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Continue to eat what you can and drink a lot of water. Remember, you are no good to Tina if YOU are not well. Are you employed or going to school? Try and keep up with your normal schedule and take care of yourself, and keep in close touch with your mother. As a mother, my children's health is the most important thing to me!
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Beline
replied on May 8th, 2008
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Andrew, I want to strongly suggest that you go see a doctor. The fact that you can’t eat has a lot to do with your nerves. This will manifest in other health problems too, and as Eeyore said: you can’t take care of Tina if you’re not taking care of yourself.

Let him prescribe something to calm your nerves. Good luck to you.
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AndrewO
replied on May 8th, 2008
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Beline wrote:
Andrew, I want to strongly suggest that you go see a doctor. The fact that you can’t eat has a lot to do with your nerves. This will manifest in other health problems too, and as Eeyore said: you can’t take care of Tina if you’re not taking care of yourself.

Let him prescribe something to calm your nerves. Good luck to you.


I ended up self-medicating with some movies and music. Blasted some Disturbed, Godsmack, Rage Against the Machine and watched Wild Hogs, There Will Be Blood, and a couple of episodes of House. I was able to eat some chicken and I've got my old swagger back, but I know it is only a band-aid when what I need is a hard cast.

If I continue to not be able to eat tomorrow, I will see my doctor.
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Beline
replied on May 8th, 2008
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The good news is that you are going through the normal ‘grieving procedure’. The bad news is it sucks to feel that way. I’m sorry that you are going through this. I wish there was something I could do for you other than praying. I’m just glad that you are going to see a doctor though. See if you can take a multi vitamin in the meantime.
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Willa Weintraub
replied on May 8th, 2008
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Ok, I didn't even read the last 3 paragraphs but NO WAY! Are you nuts? Do you honestly want to live the rest of your life like this? I don't understand. . . That's just insane. To me it sounds like she does have a lot of issues that need to be dealt with but it also sounds like she is using these illnesses as an excuse to cheat on you. Are you supposed to wait for her in the shadows while she is off on her escapades? Having sex with people she just met days before and possibly not using a condom? Another thing, if she had not been taking her meds for her illnesses, she most likely was also not taking her bc pills. You and her are both at risk for STD's and thats nothing to play with. She sounds like she needs more help than you can give her. I know you silently promised her mother you would not allow her to follow in her footsteps but this is something that is way out of your control. By doing all those things for her while she is out with a bum who she says she wants to have a child with, to me that is enabling her to keep doing what she has been. Are you supposed to continue hurting for your whole life and be unhappy? Think about it. She is ultimately NOT your responsibility and you can only do so much. What she does is her choice. I'm pretty sure she can go get help and she is choosing not to do that, but choosing to put you through grief.

I may sound harsh, and that is not my intention at all. I am very sorry she and you have to go through this. I hope she gets the help she needs and if not, I hope you can let go. Good luck to you!
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Questions4u
replied on May 8th, 2008
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well said Willa...my thoughts exactly.

he's equally disturbed if he gives this a second thought.

grow some, and move on........
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eeyore46
replied on May 8th, 2008
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We do not know what the future holds for any of us, just take care and follow through with what you believe to be the right decision. You are young, time will tell you what to do, and until then, take care of yourself. It also sounds like you have a supportive family to help you out, that is very important right now.
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Beline
replied on May 10th, 2008
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Give us an update, Andrew. How are you doing? Is Tina okay? Melanoma could be serious. And have you been to the doctor yet?
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