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Q: Aids Cure?
asked by: Cast000 on March 18th, 2008
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I found some interesting things on aids and what I keep finding is that there are cures for aids...

There are natural methods... but many are ignored because they cant be patent or arent expensive so pharma cant make much money... Ex. UV blood irradiation (google it)

There is also something that pharma has even patent called Tetrasilver Tetroxide (US Patent #5,676,977) (google)

I'm not sure whether this stuff will actually cure you, but there cheap and I know if I had AIDS, I'd give it a shot...

If you try it please let us know how it works for you...
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Cast000
replied on March 18th, 2008
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Oh and I also heard Hydrogen Peroxide therapy also works well... I hope this stuff helps...
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homerx
replied on March 18th, 2008
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I asked my doc and she said to just take my meds and I will be fine. Not to try any untested herbs or medicines...
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Cast000
replied on March 31st, 2008
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Not much is gained in life without risk.... Its worth a shot in my opinion, and you dont have to get off your Meds either

It either helps you or it doesn't but its not going to kill you, but not trying it may.
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Seraph
replied on March 31st, 2008
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I am no specialist on this area in any way or form, so HomerX would more than likely let me know if I am being ignorant and/or wrong, but I would say you should rather play it safe.

If this "new medication" is proven to kill off HIV, then definately good show...but untill then, leave it to the people who are doing the clinical trials. If you are one of those people that are doing clinical trials to help further the research, then good for you but otherwise...

There has been a LOT of possibles, maybes, if's and's and whot-not's in terms of HIV/AIDS especially from uneducated and/or ignorant people but from the medical industry as well.

AIDS is not a virus...it's a condition and untill there is a proven technique to kill off the HIV virus it self, I would stay away from these "new" remedies. The best you can do, is take existing and proven medication and precautions agianst damage to your body. Your body can't protect it self any more as HIV destroys it's anti-bodies...other than that, HIV is not responsible for any other problems AIDS sufferrers has to deal with. Most of the illnesses that AIDS sufferrers gets, allready has a "cure" and/or prevention...it's just that you need to work harder to fight it.

Some experimental drugs and/or herbs may put additional strain on your body due to undiscoverd or even known side-effects which an AIDS sufferrer can not afford fool around with.

I'm just in the "Arena" of "Umbrella" disorders...that's the only reason I have a comment on this as I have some form of comprehension of the effects and treatments of such a disorder/diseases.

I hope I made sense without offending anyone or being ignorent Wink
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homerx
replied on March 31st, 2008
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Seraph...you are right. I would not suggest taking anything that my doctor didn't approve.
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Roberta777
replied on March 31st, 2008
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thing I respect most about Homer. He is thoughtful before he decides to move. Like my son Mark. Think before you go for it. I don't have AIDS but if I did, I would have to rely on my doctor's advise to me. A lot has changed from that time of fear and ignorance until now. Some viruses are more terrible than others, but it is still the fact that we are living in a human body affected by a virus.

Have a stable, loving relationship in your life if possible. Have LOVE. It is the best medicine of all.

Bobbie
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homerx
replied on April 1st, 2008
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Bobbie, you got that right!!! respect
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Cast000
replied on April 1st, 2008
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Hmmm... I like this forum.. Very Happy

yes, Seraph I completely understand what your saying...and I would totally agree with you, IF Drug companies (the people DOING the clinical trials) had our best interest in mind... I'm sure our doctors mean well, but they only know what they've been taught by their Big Pharma sponsored medical schools...

The thing is a lot of the "New Medications" (not all) have already been tested and there have been NUMEROUS books written on these kinds of things and countless people cured of things that were "uncurable" (like me for example with asthma) ... but the fact of the matter is... If its not something you can patent or something you can charge people an "arm and a leg for" then company's are not going to advertise it, much less test it..

Its money that makes the world go round my friends... It sucks, I know

Sure you could tell an asthmatic that he's getting asthma because of chronic dehydration (thus simply drinking more water with a bit of sea salt will do the trick) OR you can give him something that'll suppress the symptoms (inhalers) but not cure it. So that he'll keep coming back for more and more making the people who make the inhalers richer and richer...

There is no money in healthy people, Seraph.. and the sad truth is if you want health.. your going to have to look else where, outside of this country's "clinical trials"...

Here if you look at this link you find that they did do research on Ultraviolet blood irridation..

http://www.cheniere.org/books/aids/ch5.htm

(look under Possible cure for AIDS)

"In 1947, Dr. G .P. Miley reported on 79 cases of virus infection.4 Miley stated that ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy could be relied upon consistently to control an infection of a virus in a safe and efficient manner.5"

This particular treatment doesn't completely cure you but like it says it helps control it... Why then are doctors insisting you should take cocktails that have horrible side effects when this treatment has little to none?

Why? because "the treatment is simple, safe, inexpensive and unpatentable." Meaning no money for drug companies...
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homerx
replied on April 2nd, 2008
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electromagnetic inoculation....nah....but hay,go for it, I'll stick to my meds...
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Cast000
replied on April 2nd, 2008
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Its all good, to each his own. I'm not here to force something down anyones throat but I'm just saying if there's hope for a cure and its already out there its worth a shot... and its definitely worth putting up on this board...


Heres the Patent that the government has on a cure that they strangely never used... I found it at http://www.uspto.gov just go to "patent search" its patent number 5,676,977

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser? Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL& ;p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm &r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5676977.P N.&OS=PN/5676977&RS=PN/5676977


I hope this serves to help someone...

Good luck to anyone who decides to try it, and good luck to you Homerx Smile

I wish everyone here the best...
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homerx
replied on April 2nd, 2008
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Thanks...hay, I'll go to the site and check it out...appreciate it. respect
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Seraph
replied on April 2nd, 2008
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No problem
I have no problem with that and am all for informed choices Wink

"It is easy to gain knowledge...but it takes wisdom to apply the knowledge..."
Unknown...anyone able to help me out here?
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homerx
replied on April 2nd, 2008
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I Googled it and got no results...Sad...I have heard it before and its brilliant...Smile
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homerx
replied on April 15th, 2008
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NO no no no....I have heard this crap before and it is crap. Don't bye into it, don't believe it...Believe me, I have AIDS and can tell you first hand...take your meds, eat,sleep and exercise and you will be fine...Do not fall for this weirdness because its a hoax. And in Jamaica...well, don't get me started on the way Jamaicans treat people who have HIV or AIDS or are gay....they are very much into Voodoo and they are very backwards in there thinking about medicine and AIDS so do not believe this lie.
The article goes on to say and I quote ""I did not come up with this 'cure' ... but, I was given it by the Angel Gabriel, who appeared to me in 2002, and said, 'I am going to give you the cure for AIDS.' So I replied, "There is no cure for AIDS!" Gabriel asked, 'Do you believe I am an angel?' Now, looking straight and stern at me, standing about seven feet away. So, I said, "Yes, what is it?" He showed me a species of the palm plant. I asked him how to get it out, which he showed me, and said that the dose should be 60ml three times daily for 21 days and the person will be 'cured' of AIDS." end quote.
Does this sound like something scientific that you want to put in your body? Do you realize that in Jamaica they commit homicide on gay people for being gay and they believe gay people are evil and should die? DO NOT bye into this hoax.
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rogimon
replied on April 15th, 2008
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Calm down man. I'm from Jamaica and I don't beat gay people or people with HIV. Not all Jamaicans are like that. The bad ones give us all a bad name. There is actually a very civilized side to Jamaica that you would like if you took the time to find out.

Anyway, thanks for your input. I was just curious about the topic and wanted to hear the views of others. I hope they find a real cure one day.

P.S The black magic form practised is Obeah and not Voodoo. They're similar but not the same.
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homerx
replied on April 15th, 2008
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http://www.poz.com/articles/jamaica_hiv_vi olence_2046_12768.shtml

sorry but this is scary to most gay people...I know not all Jamaicans are like that...sorry if I came across the wrong way but all I know is what i hear and see..I have 2 straight friends who go to the Sandles Resort there 2 or 3 times a year and they told me Jamaicans hate gay people. And would commit homicide on gay and HIV people and that we were not wanted there...and our money was no good to them. Needless to say, those people are no longer friends of mine. But I do know that not all Jamaicans are that way. Sorry if I offended you. respect
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Cast000
replied on April 19th, 2008
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I thought this was interesting, does anybody here know if its true that they've never isolated and actual "HIV" virus? and if they have could you send me a link or show me where I can find the documentation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5K1KdxoZwc &feature=related
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homerx
replied on April 19th, 2008
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HIV infection is a viral infection caused by the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) that gradually destroys the immune system, resulting in infections that are hard for the body to fight.
This shows HIV causes AIDS..its no hoax.
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/evidhi v.htm
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http://www.avert.org/virus.htm
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Cast000
replied on April 19th, 2008
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I'm sure its not a Hoax, I just find it interesting...

thanks for the links, none of them cite a scientific journal that claims to have isolated HIV though, thats what I'm trying to find... Confused
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