Most people don't follow this NA, it's cool that some people may follow it but it doesn't apply to the whole of society. A healthy relationship that is sexless is impossible to some and not everyone believes in marriage, should abstinence really be promoted?

For example, abstinence only education backfires, since everyone has different views, how they feel or some of us are more in tune with ourselves sexually. I think that if you taught a kid who was more sexually natured to be abstinent,he/she could come home pregnant or with STDs because the proper protection wasn't taken or they were denied a right to being educated. From my perspective, I'm going to teach my children that sex is healthy!

Not a big fan of abstinence but hey, if it works for that person, good for them!

I just think "Hormonal Teenagers" when I think abstinence, the mental image of highschool and horny teenage for some reason seems more realistic!

Honestly, all it proves to me is that some families are very, very, very strange indeed.

I'm going to teach my daughter exactly like this Duggar family does. They are right on track and it was so refreshing to see this with all the sexual decay around us. There is hope. This is how you create a better world.

Because, like, no one who is taught abstinence only has ever had sex as a teenager. Or got pregnant. Nuh uh. Never. Yep, it works really really well. Really. It does.

Well then, go ahead. But I cannot see you NOT pushing your beliefs on your daughter. The Duggars, they NEVER pushed their beliefs upon any of their children...well at least not sexually. I, however, will not teach my children abstinence only. They will learn about EVERYTHING, all their options. If Josh Duggar's parents never pushed their beliefs upon him, then he was not necessarily taught ABSTINENCE ONLY. He was given that option and that is what he chose for himself. I will teach my children abstinence, safe sex, birth control options, condoms/prophylactics, etc and then, just like the Duggar family, I will lay back and let my kids decide whichever route that they would like to take. Their decision will be an informed and supported decision. They can choose to be abstinent or choose to have protected sex. Their choice. Not mine. But they will at least be educated in all areas. And sorry, but I cannot honestly see you actually letting your daughter come to you and ask for birth control. So you are not really going to raise her like the Duggars did. I do know that since they never forced their beliefs about sex upon their kids, I am pretty sure that their kids could come to them and ask about birth control and probably recieve it. They are a strange family, yes. But I do think they are a loving family that does care about their children. And I do think they respect their children's decisions.

Aha see this is the interesting of the Duggar family mother. They do not pushed their beliefs what they did better was to raise the kids loving Jesus Christ and so therefore they choose for themselves that sexual lifestyle. They are very religious and I can attest that when you are raised in church and love God one does this decision by yourself. Trust me none of those Duggar girls aint gonna go to daddy to ask for birth control pills if they are not married. The dad Jim Bob stated clearly he did not wanted their kids to do the mistakes they did. Abstinence education includes teaching about birth control but not for it to be looked as an option, just for knowledge that it is there. All the duggar kids have the same line of thought as they did interviewed the other sisters. Very refreshing to hear them.

Yes, and it worked for the Palin family, too.

LOL oop...Abstinence works to a degree. But I see you did not get my point, NA. IF the Duggar girls HAD a change of view, and wanted to have sex, I am pretty sure that Mom or Dad Duggar would do their best to protect their daughters. So, you did not get my point. The Duggars are not Abstinence only...abstinence only, true abstinence only education only teaches about saving yourself for marriage. Abstinence preferred education teaches about all options (the one exception is abortion, especially in a deeply religious family such as the Duggar family)but emphasis is put on abstaining. Because they do not push their beliefs on their children, it leads me to believe that if their childre DID want to choose another path, they would fully support that child. That is probably where you and the Duggar family would split on differences. Because I cannot see you supporting your daughter no matter what. You said so yourself that the Duggar family does not push their beliefs on their kids. If their kids choose to live like their parents, good for them. But they are more likely to WANT to live like their parents, knowing that no choice they make is FORCED on them and knowing they will be supported even if they choose to live differently. It is like my girlfriend, who got pregnant at 16 once said, "My parents talked to me about sex, yes. They said, 'Keep your legs closed until marriage'. They told me that no man wanted an unpure bride. They told me they would never support me if I was unwed and pregnant or having sex. Now I am, and they want nothing to do with me. If they had told me instead that I was loved and would be supported and accepted no matter my choice or if my views were different from theirs, I may have stayed pure. Just to know that my options, no matter what are my options, and I am loved no matter what, would have given me the self-assurance and self-esteem to preserve my virginity." In other words, if her parents had been like the Duggars, saying they would prefer abstinence but support their kids and love them no matter what, then yes, she may have, just like the Duggar kids, remained pure. But she never got that support, she never felt she had any bit of control or say over herself. You give a kid a bit of support and love along with your abstinence/birth control/prophylactic education, and tell them that you love them no matter what, but that you would prefer they remain pure, but still would love them no matter what decision they make, that kid is more likely to remain pure. But if you tell a child that abstinence is how it is and how it will be, and that you will not support them in having sex, that opens the door for rebellion.

Yes, it worked... for that child. That's one case. How many cases have there been where it has NOT worked?

I wouldn't personally rely on abstinence-only education to prevent my daughters from teenaged pregnancy and STD's.

Sex is normal N/a anyone who denies that is definatly not human...


Next, I loved how Sarah Palin taught her daughter abstinence and was so strong on it, then not too long afterwards during the campaign it was revealed that her daughter was pregnant, "Great motto."

How are you so sure of that? Considering the Duggars have 18 children because they are against birth control, you must not be using your common sense when you say this. Have you read their story? The reason for their 18 children is because birth control make them miscarry a baby and they felt so guilty they swared not to use birth control again to not let that happen again. And they had 18 children because of this. And you think if one of their daughters ask them for birth control they are going to give to them like that? hahahaha

hahaha good excuse. She was set to have sex, she was going to have regardless of what their parents told her.

How so? I was told like that and I never rebelled. That's BS and I can tell you by personal experience. I did not had room for rebellion because I depended on my parents for roof, food and college education. I was not going to give up all that for just sex, I wasn't that stupid.

However when you do teach abstinence you should say why that is the correct way so it's not something like you will do as I say because I say so. You do say because of this and that. That is the correct way of teaching abstinence.

You are not at fault if your children disobey you. At least Sarah did her best to teach her kid the correct way.

Okay, wait. If a child chooses to abstain, the education works and the parents should be praised... but if they don't, then the parents aren't at fault? You can't have it both ways. Either abstinence education works or it doesn't.

You can't control your childrens' actions. But you can do all that you can to make sure that if they make the decision to have sex, they're armed with knowledge. Make sure they know about birth control and have access to it. Make sure they know about STDs and how to prevent catching them. Make sure they know how pregnancy happens instead of listening to their friends and rumors off the internet. And then keep your fingers crossed that your kids make smart decisions and aren't so terrified of your judgment that they're afraid to come to you when they need to.

An open mind goes far.

This is very true and very right! kudos!

to abstain is to deny(which the church is fantastic at) they spend over a million dollars lying to kids that condoms or ANY OTHER form than abstainance is a lack of faith, they teach that homosexuality is a disease and thay lie most unknowingly. teach a child that when they are ready to please use condoms, you won't go to hell even though there isn't one until the bible pt 2 came out.abstinance only suppressed a natural feeling in mr.dubben and after he finally hopped on the horse it sounds like he never got off of it, see the deal is the ignorant(not stupid just lacking truthful information) are trying to out-breed the intellectuals, the ones with no blinders on.sorry christ but your true name is Osiris and the father is Horus, do the research if you aren't afraid. so if your I.Q. is above lets say 115,that should be above the churches,then have as many brainsters as you can, our only hope is to outbreed them= i take full accord for everything i say and i do not fear the bible-thumpers i welcome a good, not violent, arguement. after all, with questions come answers, oh yeah the churches frown upon them too.

Yes we know you can't control your children actions. But I don't need to tell my children that it is okay to have sex when they are obviously not ready. Birth control can fail and if they are not ready I will tell them so. STD education will be one big point to tell them so that they can see why abstinence is the correct way. I think people have a wrong idea if they think that abstinence education doesn't involve teaching about STD's and how to make a baby. It's ridiculous. Of course abstinence education involves teaching all there is about sex please.

No Aya my daughter will not need to be afraid to come to me when needed be assured of that. That is another lie that if you teach abstinence your children they will be afraid to come to you if they screwed up. That doesn't happen Aya unless your children can see you don't care for them.

i agree to preach abstinence...i mean obviously most kids dont follow through with it and do end up having sex EVENTUALLY..however, i do not want to raise kids in a home in which they think they sex is ok and that it isn't a big deal..no..it isn't ok..you SHOULD wait..at least until you are in love and MATURE enough to understand everything,kids these days are absolutely ridiculous...messing around at 13 and 14..heck i may have been slow growing up but at that age i hadn't even had my first kiss...i completely planned on waiting until marriage.. i turned down many boyfriends bc i wasn't ready for sex...but,eventually i fell i love(at 19)..things happened..and i cant take it back...no i dont regret it(we're still together now almost 3 years later), bc i believe i'm old enough and responsible enough to take my pills and the necessary precautions, but that doesn't mean that i wont preach abstinence to my kids...i know its up to them...however, its also up to the PARENTS to lead them into the right direction...it is NOT ok for a 16 year old to be having sex..i'm sorry but at that age i do not belive it is capable for someone to be completely in love and know what they're getting themselves into..i will certainly be watching my kids when i have them and will treat them just as my parents have treated me...until i left for college i was carefully watched..my parents knew where i was and when i was coming home there was no opportunity for sex at that age even if i wanted it! bc i was carefully watched and taken care of..thats just the way it was...i believe when my kid is ready to go to college THEN they are capable of making their own decisions...as my father always said and still does.."if youre under my house, you live by my rules"...period....and just because *I* did not happen to make it to marriage, it doesn't change my views and certainly wont change what i preach to my children