We don't judge you, so please have the same courtesy. Abortion is abortion -- the removal of an embryo or fetus prior to viability. No one is forcing you to have one. But if people like you, who think they are so superior but everything they say indicates they are ignorant and without empathy, succeed in making abortion illegal...then I hope that your children grow up to hate you.

A pregnant woman is carrying a living human. Abortion kills that living human. Since abortion is unfortunantly legal in this country, it cannot be called homicide. Personally I like the term "legalized homicide". I find it very ironic that those who call prolifers "ignorant and without empathy" have no problem with killing unborn humans.
It is also pretty funny how so called "choicers" really only support the "choice" to abort and call mothers who carry to term names and hope their "children grow up to hate" them. LOL! Real nice but no suprise after dealing with "prochoice" hate for many years.

The point is that you have no basis for having an opinion about what another sentient, feeling human being does with her body, why she chooses to abort, or how she feels. It doesn't affect you. Your nasty diatribes are completely unwarranted, and demonstrate that you are supercilious, arrogant and unfeeling. It will be very interesting to know how your daughter would react if she was raped and pregnant, and wanted to abort but you said this was wrong. Oh, to be a fly on the wall!

Are you okay with the death penalty? That is considered legalized homicide too...
I am prochoice AND a mother...it IS possible to be both.

So, people in a coma who aren't sentient, feeling humans shouldn't be allowed to live? Some "people" don't consider infants sentient or capable of feeling. They don't deserve to live? Heck, people who are anesthesised aren't sentient and feeling either, we should end their lives?
Unlike you, if my daugher was raped, God forbid!, I can't say how I would handle it. No one really knows until it happens to them. You not liking my prolife stance and what I have to say does not make me "supercilious, arrogant or unfeeling".

You don't believe that a pregnant woman is capable and justified of deciding for herself whether or not to incubate a brainless amoeba. You think your way is the only right way. The trouble with being "pro-life" is that you want the right to interfere in other people's decisions. I don't care what you bake in your belly, so you shouldn't care if I choose to purge mine.

Your silly attempt to bring up the usual "what about people in a coma" is pathetic. This is a discussion about non-sentient (and in this thread -- NEVER sentient!) inhabitants of an unwilling person's uterus. Please don't try to obscure that point.

You are really too funny and the only arguement you have for abortion is that the woman wants one. Well, serial killers want to kill and rapists want to rape and abusers want to abuse so I guess those should be legal too? We should all mind our own business and not interfer. Heck, with your reasoning, Hitler would still be in power, killing Jews, disabled, Gypsies and everyone one else he didn't see as acceptable for whatever reason. If we all minded our own business, slavery would still be legal in this country. You advocate choice and then attack anyone who choses life for their dying unborn child. You are not prochoice, you are proabortion and you cannot even competently argue your position. LOL! Being prolife means advocating for the life of every human not only just born humans.
Here's a newsflash for you: If you don't kill the unborn sentient, they do become sentient after the magic vagina ride. I can't believe you are attempting to argue the "dead horse" arguement of sentience. Good heavens educate yourself and learn how to present an arguement instead of spewing old useless rhetoric you have been brainwashed with. That may mean doing a little research. Are you up to it? Hmmmm.

You can decide not to have an abortion.
You can decide that you will not associate with anyone who would have an abortion.
You can take a little doll that looks like someone who has had an abortion, and stick pins it and chant incantations.
Whatever.
What you have no right to do is to decide for someone else if they will have an abortion. Your uterus is your business. Mine is my business.
My sole argument is that if a woman does not want a thing inside her, she has the right to have it removed -- whether it is a blob of undifferentiated cells, a sentient being, or Jesus H Christ himself.

If you want to incubate whatever takes up residence in your uterus, go ahead. But don't tell me that I have to.

Fetuses are only brainless for a period of time during incubation. Everyone-including you was at one point a fetus and we were ALL born with a brain that was fully functioning and running our bodies.

Its VERY possible to be a mother and prochoice or as I like to NOT be anti-fetus and also pro-choice. Let's keep the focus on a woman's right to choose and not about who or what deserves to die.

Do whatever you want with your uterus. Take it out, leave it in, don't get pregnant, get pregnant, hang it from a tree, I don't really care. Neither does any other prolifer. What we do care about is the innocent, living human YOU created. You have no right or business destroying any human life, born or unborn. That life is as important as yours and killing it is immoral and inhumane.
The arguements you insist on using are the same old, boring and overused proabort rhetoric that actually means nothing and has been successfully argued to obliviation.
Can you at least be honest with yourself and admit you are proabortion because you don't have a problem with a mother killing her unborn, living, human fetus for any reason at any time and if it was legal to kill unwanted born humans, you would support that too, under the guise of "choice" that is.

No, she does not have to admit she is proabortion and neither does any other pro"choicer". I am FOR abortion OR carrying the baby to term for adoption OR parenting. That is what prochoice means. It involves all THREE choices surrounding a pregnancy, whether wanted or NOT. Yes, there are extremes, but there are also just as many (if not more) extremes on the pro"life" side. That would be just like me telling you to at least admit that you are really anti"woman" or pro"coerced-pregnancy".

Since she (previous poster) "says" she is prochoice yet calls my child and others like him "sponges" and does not think their lives were "beneficial" I don't honestly think she really is prochoice but instead is proabortion. Many prochoicers are for allowing a woman to actually chose and support that woman no matter what she choses. I don't see the poster I was referring to as doing that. Yes, there are extremists on both sides but the majority of us on both sides want to help mothers/women and lower abortion rates.

She might indeed be proabortion, but that is HER choice and I support it, doesn't mean I have to agree with it, but I support it. I think you went a little overboard though when you said that if killing unwanted born humans became legal, she would probably support that too under the guise of "choice". Just as some women adore the thought of babies and children, there are others that are appalled at the thought. Doesn't make them monsters or bad people. Just makes them who they are. I tell you what, oop may not have the empathy/sympathy for unborn humans, but you bet your butt that her chickens and animals are well taken care of! (Go, Oop ! )I think (and oop, no offense, this is just how I see you)that oop is more of an animal lover than a human one and maybe it's due to how we as humans often destruct ourselves and everything else around us. I think like that too sometimes.

I consider abortion to be wrong. Killing a human being is wrong irrespective of born or unborn. Just because an unborn baby is helpless and unable to protect itself we have no right to kill the innocent baby.

If I had a daughter and she was raped I would NOT ask her to get aborted (I understand it's easy to say but difficult to do but that's exactly what I believe). The rapist is the culprit and deserves punishment. Why should we kill the innocent unborn baby? It's like giving the ultimate punishment to the unborn baby for a crime that it never quite committed. I am sorry that's wrong. By the way, these words come from a man.

What if SHE was the one who wanted an abortion? She was the one who did not want to be punished by being forced to incubate a rape-omelette. She was the one who would suffer -- physically and mentally -- by being FORCED to remain pregnant with a rapist's product. Why should a woman who was raped go through this damaging physical experience to satisfy your belief?

I am NOT asking women to satisfy my personal belief. My problem is with the fact that we are KILLING an INNOCENT baby. If a women wants to abort I am NO one to stop her but I don't consider the baby to be a "rapist omlette". It's an innocent child and purely sinless. The child hasn't raped or hurt anyone. Why should we kill it? I understand the woman has to suffer physically and mentally and as a man who would never have the experience of carrying a child for 9 months it's very easy to make comments on this for me but I am not asking anyone to believe I am right and satisfy my belief. This is just how I see the matter as. To you is your philosophy of life and to me is mine.

Note: I guess we need to compare the cost of killing an innocent child and the cost of physical and mental damage and then come to a conclusion even though coming to conclusion on this issue is itself very difficult.

Hard cases account for only 2% of abortions. 98% of abortions are for "convenience" of the parent/s. By "forcing" do you mean physically restraining? If my daughter was raped and had an abortion, I would not support that abortion in any way but I would support my daughter after the fact in whatever way needed. Abortion would be a further violation against her. I don't see 2 violent acts as solving anything and very possibly adding to the woman's violation. After all, the "rapist's product" is also an innocent human who is made up of 1/2 of the woman. Do you usually advocate killing the innocent to solve your problems?

She may have a legal "choice" to have an abortion but she does not have the moral right to take another human life, EVER. You also do not have the moral right to support her killing another human. I am glad she takes good care of her animals but since she puts them above human life, I find her beliefs repulsive. Actually she does support killing infants, just in their developing form same as if you kill a teen, you are killing a developing adult. We are all in a different stage of developement, we are all human dispite what stage we are in and none of us has the moral right to kill another human even if the law says we can.

Well, dear, equally I find your beliefs repulsive. I abhor the idea that you think it is valid to force a thinking, feeling woman to remain pregnant against her will, carrying some cluster of undifferentiated cells or even something that looks vaguely like a prawn and has as much meaning, feeling and sentience as an aspidistra. And an ugly, lanky, under-watered aspirdistra, at that. I think it is repugnant that some busybodies think that their ideas about what is going on in some other woman's uterus is in any way their business -- it's sort of like fetus-porn. Your morality sucks big time.