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You really want to make excuses to have an abortion? If you agree with murder, do it.. plane and simple. Here's one I laugh at when people argue excuses to get an abortion.. rape. Well I am a pro-lifer, which means no matter what, if you're pregnant, abortion is NOT an option, ever.

You want to judge me and argue with me? Consider this, I was sexually abused 3 times. I would've NEVER aborted any of those babies if I ended up pregnant. Why? Because why does the baby deserve to be murdered? That sick man deserves to be the one that is murdered opposed to the fetus. What has it done to you? Give it up for adoption if you don't want the responsibility of a child. But that fetus does not deserve to die for what that sick man did. Just because your life hasn't been perfect, or you feel like you're not living anymore.. doesn't mean that child can't live because you don't want it to.

I find abortion just as cruel and sick as murder.

If you disagree with me, then click disagree in the poll. Other than that, I don't want to hear your negative comments because I have been through enough and am entitled to my own opinions!
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replied March 10th, 2011
I love it when people post in a DEBATE forum with something like " I don't want to hear your negative comments...blah blah...I'm ENTITLED to my own opinions"
ummm cause someone here said you weren't? and pro choicer aren't entitled to have opinions? really?? sheesh.

But since I don't really care that you feel I shouldn't post unless I agree with your statements I'm going to anyway.

I think that the only person who gets a say on what to do about a pregnancy ( carry to term, abort, adopt or parent) is THE WOMAN carrying the pregnancy. Not the government, pro lifers, society or even pro-choicers.

I too have been sexually abused( *gasp you mean not all victims feel the same???? ) and if I had been unfortunate enough to become pregnant I would have aborted in a flat second, with no regrets. I don't believe in religion, gods, or souls and think that biologically the development of a brain capable of being a conscious sentient being takes place far later then most abortions.

But that is my personal opinion and when it comes to MY body I am the only one who gets to make the call. and I don't owe ANYONE and excuse or reason.

It's completely irrelevant whether my reason is a 'socially acceptably' one like rape or simply that I'm using abortions a form of birth control( cause I know SOOO many women LOVE to have invasive, expensive surgical procedures over using birth control pills or something* sarcasm)

A fetus may not 'deserve to die' as you put it just because of the actions of it's sire, but the flip side of that is not that it deserves to be carried to term against its mothers wishes because it has a right to life. It's supposed 'right to life' DOES not trump the mother's right to determine her own bodily autonomy.
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replied March 11th, 2011
To my sarcastic peer..
I love how you immediately assume religion. And I am simply stating my opinion because I read a comment that a woman posted saying anyone that got sexually abused would "of course get an abortion" and she assumed that it was a great reason to get an abortion.. it's not a reason, it's a choice and in my eyes, it's murder. But that's my opinion.. and the way she stated hers, she was saying that any woman who was sexually abused would definitely get an abortion if it happened to her. Wrong.
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replied March 11th, 2011
Also, to add to one of your sarcastic comments.. of course every victim doesn't feel the same.. some would kill the child growing inside of them if they ended up pregnant and some wouldn't.
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replied March 11th, 2011
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Well, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to impose your opinion on anyone else. I would abort ANY pregnancy in a nano-second, simply because I do not want to be pregnant, and no critter "deserves" to use my body rent-free without my permission. It can go check into a hotel and incubate there. You can call abortion whatever silly names you like. I have the right to my opinion, and in my view an unwanted pregnancy should be aborted as soon as possible. Clinical waste, I call it.
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replied March 11th, 2011
That's a little harsh.. clinical waste?
And once again, that's your opinion. I was just stating mine after reading that other post and being offended.
Every person has their own opinion, yes. But that woman should not speak for all sexual assault victims and say any of them would get an abortion. That was my main point. I don't want to argue any further. I have my views and people have theirs.
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replied April 11th, 2011
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If you "don't want to argue", you shouldn't have posted this in the debate section of the forum in the first place.

Also, I have been a rape victim TWICE, and was molested as a child by our "oh- so- trustworthy" neighbor. I got HPV from the first rape, and got pregnant when I was raped again a year later. What did I do? I went and had an abortion. "Why would you do that, you're a murderer," you may say. Well, because, for one, I didn't have the mental capacity to carry my rapist's child in my uterus and be forever connected with him. Yes, you are forever going to associate with the a**hole that RAPED you. I don't think MOST women would want that. That's just my own personal opinion. And two, I was still in school, and pardon my selfishness, but I wanted to graduate. Yea, yea I know babies are cute and all, but it is a full time job to be a parent. Some are not cut out for it.

Also, you don't "give up" a child for adoption, you place them with another family. That's what I did with my son. Would you like to know why? The father of my son was threatening to take him from me and hurt me after he was born. Would you consider THAT as a "lame excuse" for adoption or even an abortion?

To each is their own. You have no right to dictate what others should do. You do, however, have the right to an opinion, as long as you're not trying to shove it down other people's throats. That's when people start getting hostile. Just saying.
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replied April 5th, 2012
some are not cut out for it? thats a pathedic reason . im a teenager, going to school working and full time parent. im doing just fine,abortion is never an option thats when adoption is needed. that is selfish of you, when i got pregnant did i want the baby? no but how could i live with myself killing my OWN CHILD after you accept it. you fall in love with your baby , to think MOTHERS will kill there child is crazy , after your pregnant thats when you become a MOM. take responsiblilty and act like one!
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replied April 7th, 2012
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I DID take responsibility - I aborted. I was not willing to become a parent and not willing to put my body through the trauma of gestation and childbirth just to hand the child over to someone else to raise. I was adopted and I would NEVER inflict that on a child. Besides, pawning a child off on others to raise is the height of IRResponsibility!
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replied April 13th, 2012
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That's a bit of asilly position to take, given all the women who abuse and kill their own children. Having a baby doesn't suddenly turn you into a saint. Mothers kill their children. It happens.
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replied March 11th, 2011
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Hey, I have been sexually assaulted and molested several times...would I abort? Probably. But that is MY choice, and MINE alone. Just as the choice to do so (or not) is the choice alone for any other woman.

And I'm sorry, but I disagree that it would be a good idea to eliminate ALL abortions, even those for rape. A woman traumatized through rape does not deserve to be even further traumatized by being forced to carry a fetus she may think of as "spawn of satan" or a "monster". It should be HER choice ALONE to make.

Abortion should never be forced upon anyone, and neither should carrying to term. A pregnancy can be filled with dangerous complications and a woman who was raped (or any woman, regardless of her circumstances) may not be prepared to accept those complications.
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replied March 11th, 2011
I never said it would be a good idea to eliminate all abortions. Personally, I'd rather live with a child than live with the guilt of killing one for the rest of my life.
Sorry to hear about that, it must of been hard to go through that several times. I was 13 the first time.
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replied March 11th, 2011
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Nobody can legally force you to abort your pregnancy against your will. Nobody can legally force me or any other woman (in civilized countries) to carry and give birth to a pregnancy against our will.

Isn't it nice to have the right to choose for yourself?
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replied March 11th, 2011
I simply find it cruel, but everyone has their own choice.
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replied March 11th, 2011
Homicide? Seriously, a zygote in the first weeks is nothing more than a blood clot. It is only starting to form a heart in the fifth week. I do not think late term abortions (partial birth) should be legal at all. In my opinion if you want to abort there is no cause to wait that long. However if you do not want people to respond to your opinions keep them to yourself.
I am sorry to hear that so many of the women on this thread have been sexually assaulted. My opinion on that is to get a concealed carry license if your state allows it. No reason to chance it happening again. I have had mine for several years now, and it is nice to walk through a parking lot at night without being nervous.
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replied March 13th, 2011
i believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i believe that abortion should not be carried out after 12 weeks. i have 3 children and currently 15 weeks with my 4th i personally wouldn't abort unless there was a problem with my baby. and that the baby wouldn't have a good quality of life.i am all for its our own choice and would support anyone elses choice but mine wouldn't be abortion .
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replied March 14th, 2011
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If I were prolife, I would not make an exception for rape. The child conceived in rape should be just as valuable as that conceived in consentual sex. However, I am prochoice so I believe that any woman with an unwanted pregnancy should have the legal option to abort, regardless of whether you or I agree with the decision.

Adoption is not a solution to the abortion issue. Not all women are willing to carry a child for nine months and then hand it over to others to raise. Pregnancy has a huge impact on a woman's body, and no woman should be forced to go through it and childbirth against her will.
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replied March 15th, 2011
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Re: Abortion Excuses
WorryBug16 wrote:
That sick man deserves to be the one that is murdered opposed to the fetus.

How very pro-life of you Rolling Eyes

I happen to agree that I don't understand PLers who think that abortion for rape is ok (I mean, a foetus is a foetus right?) but disagree that abortion is homicide (that may be your opinion but it is legal fact it is not, homicide being a legal concept and all).

People don't need 'excuses' to abort. If you feel it's best to abort in an individual situation then that is all that matters. You wouldn't abort, fine. I did abort, fine. I have no guilt for it, the reasons were solid for me. Would I have adopted? Nope. I didn't want to be pregnant.
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replied April 13th, 2012
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VillaPorras wrote:
some are not cut out for it? thats a pathedic reason . im a teenager, going to school working and full time parent.

Good for you. Not being 'cut out for it' isn't a pathetic reason. Parenting isn't easy, you ive up a lot of yourself when you become a parent. If someone isn't cut out for it, doesn't want to be pregnant then abortion is most certainly a valid option.

It doesn't matter if adoption is needed - it isn't anyone else's responsibility to be pregnant and birth children for those who can't do it themselves.

VillaPorras wrote:
when i got pregnant did i want the baby? no but how could i live with myself killing my OWN CHILD after you accept it. you fall in love with your baby , to think MOTHERS will kill there child is crazy , after your pregnant thats when you become a MOM. take responsiblilty and act like one!

Actually, I became a mother when I gave birth to my child. I did not become a mother when I found out I was pregnant. I was not a mother when I found out I was pregnant at university (and aborted). I was not a mother when I found out I was pregnant with my child. You may have accepted the pregnancy and fallen in love/not been able to live with an abortion. Your choice. I live perfectly well having aborted thank you. The joys of life - we're all different.

I also echo that abortion can be responsible. I was at university when I fell pregnant the first time - living a selfish life, not financially responsible, living in student accommodation, surrounded by people partying. I kind of figured it would be irresponsible to continue and have a child when I wasn't prepared for it/living that life.
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replied September 16th, 2012
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abortion is murder...plain and simple!
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replied September 16th, 2012
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No, abortion is Grand Theft Auto - get it straight.
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replied September 16th, 2012
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clbernadetteh wrote:
abortion is murder...plain and simple!

Please find the legislation which confirms your theory. Oh, you can't because abortion isn't murder. Plain and simple Smile
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replied September 16th, 2012
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i trust in my god! and i know the truth! um yes it is wake up my freind!
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replied September 29th, 2012
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clbernadetteh wrote:
i trust in my god! and i know the truth! um yes it is wake up my freind!

LOL - so why aren't I in prison for murder? Oh right, because I have never committed murder.

Fully awake 'my friend' - abortion is not, has never been, will never be murder. You have very strange views of law if you believe you can define what is already written.

Believe it all you will you are, in fact, incorrect in stating abortion is murder. I can provide you with the legislation which confirms my opinions, can you do the same??? lol of course not!
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replied September 30th, 2012
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juillet wrote:
You do realize that laws are made by people just like you and I.

Given that I am a lawyer I do indeed understand how laws are made.
juillet wrote:

Just because it's legal doesn't make it right!

I have never said being legal automatically makes something right. I am asking why, if abortion is indeed the legal crime of murder, legislation does not agree with this.
juillet wrote:

Furthermore, hopefully, you do realize that life and death are in the hands of God and only He has the authority to give and take life, not man.

So if someone has cancer, or other illness, then we should just let them die as it's in His hands?
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replied October 1st, 2012
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Even before it was made legal abortion was never considered murder. It is not, and has never been, murder and to state so is factually incorrect.
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